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(@reuben)
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I can't get past my third scene. I've written it five times now, each time anew, but it's never memorable or original enough for me. It just ends up as cliche dialog to me that works to move on with the story. Oh well.

Success is going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm ~ Winston Churchill
V37: R, R, R, HM
V38: SHM

 
Posted : November 13, 2020 2:32 am
RETreasure
(@rschibler)
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Dave had a newsletter this past week with some really great ways to strengthen a scene. Might be worth checking out!

V34: R,HM,R
V35: HM,R,R,HM
V36: R,HM,HM,SHM
V37: HM,SF,SHM,SHM
V38: (P)F, SHM, F, F
V39: SHM, SHM, HM, SHM
Published Finalist Volume 38
Pro’d out Q4V39
www.rebeccaetreasure.com

Managing Editor, Apex Magazine

 
Posted : November 13, 2020 2:47 am
Dustin Adams
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I can't get past my third scene. I've written it five times now, each time anew, but it's never memorable or original enough for me. It just ends up as cliche dialog to me that works to move on with the story. Oh well.

Reuben,

E-mail me. Tell me the set up of the scene, then attach it. I know it's not the whole story, but maybe I can help get you unstuck. Worst that happens is I can't. wotf005

There's a particular how-to I read frequently. It says, "stuck? It's probably this." I'm paraphrasing. But each time I smack my forehead, fix, and move on.

Although we mostly deal with openings in the 450 forum, I will post my non-specific thoughts there and maybe together we'll figure it out!

Career: 1x Win -- 2x NW-F -- 2x S-F -- 9x S-HM -- 11x HM -- 7x R
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Posted : November 13, 2020 4:09 am
Dustin Adams
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We are at the 1/2 way point for the quarter.

6 weeks to polish your draft.
Or
6 weeks to draft!

Career: 1x Win -- 2x NW-F -- 2x S-F -- 9x S-HM -- 11x HM -- 7x R
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Posted : November 16, 2020 4:15 am
(@istanhope)
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What's the general impression on nonlinear storytelling? I'm almost finished with my Q1 story, but now I'm thinking...what if I rearrange the scenes a little? I think it will generate more tension, but I wonder if it will come across as gimmicky.

SHM x2
HM x2

 
Posted : November 25, 2020 4:50 am
(@reuben)
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I'm doing it for mine, partially. I've heard that "Dave prefers linear storytelling, but he's open to new ideas."

Among the volumes I've read during is tenure, V33 has two nonlinear stories, V35 definitely has at least one. I can't remember others, although I know that Kary English's finalist (h https://grantvillegazette.com/article/publish-587 ) is nonlinear--the whole thing is told as a flashback.

Success is going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm ~ Winston Churchill
V37: R, R, R, HM
V38: SHM

 
Posted : November 25, 2020 6:29 am
(@istanhope)
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I'm doing it for mine, partially. I've heard that "Dave prefers linear storytelling, but he's open to new ideas."

Among the volumes I've read during is tenure, V33 has two nonlinear stories, V35 definitely has at least one. I can't remember others, although I know that Kary English's finalist (h https://grantvillegazette.com/article/publish-587 ) is nonlinear--the whole thing is told as a flashback.

Thank you! I'll keep that in mind. Also, thanks for the link. I really enjoyed reading that.

SHM x2
HM x2

 
Posted : November 25, 2020 12:53 pm
Alex Harford
(@alexh)
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I finally feel I'm making headway on my entry. I was working on two other stories but hardly getting anywhere (or nowhere in the case of one of them). So I've returned to one of the first stories I wrote, over 10 years ago! I always liked the idea, and it's been bubbling over in my head on and off for a couple of years. It was a 700-word-flash back then, and I've already passed that in my first scene and a half.

I hope everyone is doing okay. Every quarter seems to get tougher for me in the past year or so, so here's some encouragement from my way. 🙂

35: - R R R | 36: R HM R R | 37: HM HM HM SHM | 38: HM HM HM HM | 39: HM HM HM SHM | 40: HM R SHM SHM | 41: R HM SHM R
5 SHM / 13 HM / 9 R

 
Posted : November 27, 2020 7:51 pm
 TimE
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Plenty of humour in mine, so i know i've no chance. But I'm enjoying writing it.

?

 
Posted : November 27, 2020 9:16 pm
babooher
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I finally think I hit on my idea for this quarter. I just need to finish a revision I'm working on first.

2012 Q4: R
2016 Q3: SHM
2019 Q2: HM, Q3: HM
2020 Q2: HM, Q4: SHM
2021 Q1: HM, Q2: SF, Q3: SHM, Q4: SHM
2022 Q1: SHM, Q2 RWC, Q4 RWC
2023 Q1: RWC Q2: SHM Q3:Nope Q4: WIP

 
Posted : November 30, 2020 7:52 am
Dustin Adams
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Plenty of humour in mine, so i know i've no chance. But I'm enjoying writing it.

Humor is super tough. Especially in short stories. But it can be done! V.31 had two humorous tales.

What is humor most times but defying expectation? By the time we set it up to defy it, we've got too many words.

Thor 3 wouldn't have been as funny without Thor 1 and 2. Now he's all about the humor being the easiest to defy our expectations.
Fantasy? How about a sensitive dwarf? Nope. ABD.

Look at The God Whisperer:
When Jack got home from work on Thursday, he found a pyramid made of bird skulls in his flowerbed. Zu'ar--ancient god of death, strive, and war--must have gotten out of the yard again.

I once saw a SF crit where Dave mentioned wanting more belly laughs. With humor it's go big or go home. Little chuckles are OK in an otherwise serious story, but if you go humor, go all out. wotf001

And of course if you're enjoying writing it, then all the better!

Career: 1x Win -- 2x NW-F -- 2x S-F -- 9x S-HM -- 11x HM -- 7x R
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Posted : December 1, 2020 4:28 am
(@reuben)
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I'm finally almost finished my draft. Funny how it seems to get harder with each quarter. I originally wanted to write two WotF worthy stories this quarter, oh well... wotf002

Actually, how it happened was that I got strep, which finally gave the few hours I needed. wotf007

Anyone up for a read? I would sent it in two days or so after some revision. I'll of course be happy to return the favor.

Success is going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm ~ Winston Churchill
V37: R, R, R, HM
V38: SHM

 
Posted : December 1, 2020 2:04 pm
RETreasure
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Always, if you’d like my feedback. As of right now my queue is empty.

V34: R,HM,R
V35: HM,R,R,HM
V36: R,HM,HM,SHM
V37: HM,SF,SHM,SHM
V38: (P)F, SHM, F, F
V39: SHM, SHM, HM, SHM
Published Finalist Volume 38
Pro’d out Q4V39
www.rebeccaetreasure.com

Managing Editor, Apex Magazine

 
Posted : December 1, 2020 3:01 pm
 TimE
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I once saw a SF crit where Dave mentioned wanting more belly laughs. With humor it's go big or go home. Little chuckles are OK in an otherwise serious story, but if you go humor, go all out.

Belly laughs are unlikely. Better that I keep my results expectations low.

?

 
Posted : December 1, 2020 8:40 pm
(@reuben)
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Always, if you’d like my feedback. As of right now my queue is empty.

Thanks! I'll send it over soon. It's high fantasy, around 6k

Success is going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm ~ Winston Churchill
V37: R, R, R, HM
V38: SHM

 
Posted : December 2, 2020 11:26 am
C.A.Tedeschi
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I've finally finished it. I just need to get some eyes on it. I put a request for a crit exchange in the forum, nothing yet. I don't really want to submit it without a few read throughs of the finished work. I've learned, Feedback is invaluable....

 
Posted : December 3, 2020 11:58 pm
crlisle
(@crlisle)
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I'm available C.A. Tedeschi. I will PM you with my email address. Have you read it out loud yet? I found that reading my stories out loud is vital to finding mistakes and to see what the pacing is like.

Vol. 36: 3rd -- R, 4th -- R
Vol. 37: R, HM, HM, SHM
Vol. 38: HM, HM, HM, HM
Vol. 39: SHM, RWC, RWC, HM
Vol. 40: HM, R, RWC, R
Vol. 41: R, HM, HM, HM
Vol. 42: R, 2nd qtr. pending, 3rd qtr. WIP

Amateur published stories:
"The Army Ration That Saved the Earth" in For Glory and Honor, LTUE 2026 anthology
"The Tell-Tale Cricket" in The Murderbugs Anthololgy
"Follow the Pretrons" in Martian Magazine, and a Critters Award
"Eyes and Hands" in Galaxy's Edge Magazine
"The Last Dance" in Parliament of Wizards, LTUE anthology
"My Ten Cents" in Sci Fi Lampoon
Professional Publication:
"Invasion" in Daily Science Fiction

 
Posted : December 4, 2020 8:46 am
(@istanhope)
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I've finally finished it. I just need to get some eyes on it. I put a request for a crit exchange in the forum, nothing yet. I don't really want to submit it without a few read throughs of the finished work. I've learned, Feedback is invaluable....

I'm available for a critique exchange. Feel free to PM me if you haven't found someone yet.

SHM x2
HM x2

 
Posted : December 4, 2020 2:06 pm
(@ccrawford)
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I'm in for Q1! I feel weird having submitted so early, but I completely rewrote the thing (again) and now I was at the point where I was just moving commas around and changing my wording and then changing it back again, so that's usually my sign that the story is about to riot or self-combust if I do any more editing on it. Lol.

v35: Q4 - HM
V36: R, R, R, R
V37: SHM, HM, HM, SHM
V38: SHM, HM, HM, HM
V39: HM, R, SHM, HM
Indie author of The Lex Chronicles (Legends of Arameth), and the in-progress Leyward Stones series--including my serial, Macchiatos, Faerie Princes, and Other Things That Happen at Midnight, currently available on Kindle Vella.
Website: http://ccrawfordwriting.com. I also have a newsletter and a blog!
Short story "Our Kind" published in DreamForge Anvil, Issue #5, and also "One Shot at Aeden" published in DreamForge Anvil, Issue #7!

 
Posted : December 15, 2020 2:18 pm
Disgruntled Peony
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I'm in for Q1! I feel weird having submitted so early, but I completely rewrote the thing (again) and now I was at the point where I was just moving commas around and changing my wording and then changing it back again, so that's usually my sign that the story is about to riot or self-combust if I do any more editing on it. Lol.

Great job!

If you are in difficulties with a book, try the element of surprise: attack it at an hour when it isn't expecting it. ~ H.G. Wells
If a person offend you, and you are in doubt as to whether it was intentional or not, do not resort to extreme measures; simply watch your chance and hit him with a brick. ~ Mark Twain
R, SF, SHM, SHM, SHM, F, R, HM, SHM, R, HM, R, F, SHM, SHM, SHM, SF, SHM, 1st Place (Q2 V38)
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4th and Starlight: e-book | paperback

 
Posted : December 15, 2020 11:40 pm
 TimE
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I have 1200 pages of Rhythm of War to read in 4w and the latest Hunger Games book to pick up and read that also. So, just as well, mine is ready to submit. I'm trying to let the paint dry without putting fingerprints all over it. Mine doesn't quite compare to Sanderson.

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Posted : December 16, 2020 1:47 am
LDWriter2
(@ldwriter2)
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Hello It's been many months since I have been here. The web site would not let me back on. I tried sending in requests for help and most were not responded to, for a period not time I forgot. Joni evidently got one of them. Anyway I want to say that I wrote a story and I just need to revise it. Actually I didn't think about sending it in until a couple days when I was thinking of the next and realized, hey it's December the end of a quarter. I need to get revising.

Working on turning Lead into Gold.
Four HMs From WotF
The latest was Q1'12
HM-quarter 4 Volume 32
One HM for another contest
published in Strange New Worlds Ten.
Another HM http://onthepremises.com/minis/mini_18.html

 
Posted : December 17, 2020 4:43 am
Dustin Adams
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Hi Louis!

Indeed - a new user ID is all it takes. Smile

Career: 1x Win -- 2x NW-F -- 2x S-F -- 9x S-HM -- 11x HM -- 7x R
Like me: facebook/AuthorTJKnight

 
Posted : December 17, 2020 5:03 am
LDWriter2
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I tried both of my E-mail addresses and they each said they were in use already.

Working on turning Lead into Gold.
Four HMs From WotF
The latest was Q1'12
HM-quarter 4 Volume 32
One HM for another contest
published in Strange New Worlds Ten.
Another HM http://onthepremises.com/minis/mini_18.html

 
Posted : December 17, 2020 7:16 am
empressed
(@empressed)
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Plenty of humour in mine, so i know i've no chance. But I'm enjoying writing it.

Humor is super tough. Especially in short stories. But it can be done! V.31 had two humorous tales.

What is humor most times but defying expectation? By the time we set it up to defy it, we've got too many words.

Thor 3 wouldn't have been as funny without Thor 1 and 2. Now he's all about the humor being the easiest to defy our expectations.
Fantasy? How about a sensitive dwarf? Nope. ABD.

Look at The God Whisperer:
When Jack got home from work on Thursday, he found a pyramid made of bird skulls in his flowerbed. Zu'ar--ancient god of death, strive, and war--must have gotten out of the yard again.

I once saw a SF crit where Dave mentioned wanting more belly laughs. With humor it's go big or go home. Little chuckles are OK in an otherwise serious story, but if you go humor, go all out. wotf001

And of course if you're enjoying writing it, then all the better!

Hey, Tim, good to see you again! One of the things I loved about the Moon's story is that it's full of humor and warmth and then it rips your guts out. That is one of the secrets. (Sorry, Moon, I forget the number.) Humor is not a no-go. It can be an effective tool.

Victoria Dixon
Author of Mourn Their Courage
a 2010 Sandy Writing Contest Finalist
A Tribble Ate My Lunch: a Star Trek Cookbook (unpublished)
R=24
HM= 8
SHM=4
Finalist=1

 
Posted : December 20, 2020 6:22 am
LDWriter2
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Just wanted to say that I had another story ready for this quarter. I had sent it in already but I figured another critiquing might help it-maybe. But then I forgot about sending in any story, probably because I got busy with the Wotf workshop. Then I realized this month was the end of the quarter-duh. So if I can get someone to look over the new story I decided to send that one in.

Working on turning Lead into Gold.
Four HMs From WotF
The latest was Q1'12
HM-quarter 4 Volume 32
One HM for another contest
published in Strange New Worlds Ten.
Another HM http://onthepremises.com/minis/mini_18.html

 
Posted : December 20, 2020 9:19 am
babooher
(@babooher)
Posts: 229
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LouisD, do you need someone to look over a story? I can if you do.

2012 Q4: R
2016 Q3: SHM
2019 Q2: HM, Q3: HM
2020 Q2: HM, Q4: SHM
2021 Q1: HM, Q2: SF, Q3: SHM, Q4: SHM
2022 Q1: SHM, Q2 RWC, Q4 RWC
2023 Q1: RWC Q2: SHM Q3:Nope Q4: WIP

 
Posted : December 20, 2020 2:11 pm
Dom
 Dom
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Just submitted my Q1 entry. It was a rollercoaster, leaving me pretty wrung-out. Took some big risks with it, so my expectations aren't high, but it's the only way to get better.

(7) HM, (2) SHM

 
Posted : December 21, 2020 8:24 am
LDWriter2
(@ldwriter2)
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LouisD, do you need someone to look over a story? I can if you do.

Yes, I do about 4,500 words long.

Working on turning Lead into Gold.
Four HMs From WotF
The latest was Q1'12
HM-quarter 4 Volume 32
One HM for another contest
published in Strange New Worlds Ten.
Another HM http://onthepremises.com/minis/mini_18.html

 
Posted : December 21, 2020 3:30 pm
Jason P. Crawford
(@amstard)
Posts: 77
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Just submitted for this quarter! All my readers say this is my best offering yet. Here's hoping! Smile

Jason P. Crawford
Author of Urban Fantasy and Sci-Fi (for now!)
Finalist for 2024 Baen Fantasy Adventure Award
3rd Place Winner for 2025 Jim Baen Memorial Short Story Award

Q3 V31: HM Q2 V39: SHM Q2 V40: SHM Q2 V41: HM Q2 V42: P
Q3 V38: HM Q3 V39: SHM Q3 V40: SHM Q3 V41: HM Q3 V42: P
Q4 V38: R Q4 V39: SHM Q4 V40: SHM Q4 V41: RWC
Q1 V39: HM Q1 V40: RWC Q1 V41: SHM Q1 V42: SHM

 
Posted : December 21, 2020 5:54 pm
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