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Retropianoplayer
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Brandie 3, I'm not a WOTF Judge, nor have I ever won 1st, 2nd or 3rd place in their contests. But, with that disclaimer, what about starting your story in media res (about middle of the way through) with a speculative element (sci-fi/fantasy) which alerts the reader your story has these elements, put in a hook in that one paragraph, and then spin your tale forward?

Just a thought.

Best,

Retro


 
Posted : March 29, 2020 10:28 am
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Thanks Retro. Definitely something to consider.


 
Posted : March 29, 2020 10:45 am
SwiftPotato
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Retro is a wise human. Smile It sounds to me like at least part of your big reveal is the speculative element? If that's the case, I'd recommend (along with Retro's advice) hinting at the effect your speculative element has on the world, and especially your character. That's certainly enough to make it obvious this is a spec fic story. Best of luck!


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Posted : March 29, 2020 10:53 am
chuckt
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Working on a story I think I can get in before the deadline, but I'm a bit concern about the opening. Much of the supernatural stuff doesn't happen till later in the story, but I know the judges need to know right away that these stories are sci-fi/fantasy. Any tips on how much to foreshadow? How to be clear that there is sci-fi/fantasy at work, even if most of the reveal is coming later?

"Magic up front." It's in Wulf's secrets. Not sure if that's a Wulf original or he got it from somewhere else.

Added: It's here: http://forum.writersofthefuture.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=7600&start=60


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6 Rs, 5 HMs, 2 SHMs

 
Posted : March 29, 2020 11:35 am
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And it's submitted!


 
Posted : March 29, 2020 11:47 am
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And it's submitted!

Congratulations, Brandie! Good to hear you are in the running. I hope you found a way to get a speculative element in the first two pages. It's important. As to how I know these things, I entered the contest for 25 years. I was a member of Wordos, the writers group that has produced more WotF winners (and eventually WotF judges, including Dave!) than any other workshop in the country. And I'm friends with the people grading your papers. I know what they look for. Smile
I wrote those Super Secrets for all of you, because it would be a shame to write an awesome story, but miss by a critical element. Sometimes, it's just one item that is holding you back, like it was for me. Knowing what the first reader and judges are looking for in a winning story can make all the difference in the world.

Best of success! And I am sorry we did not get to meet again this year due to the pandemic, but I so enjoyed meeting you at the Volume 35 Gala. Your amazing gown made from pages of books, and that book hat, was dazzling. It took masterful skill to make that look chic and formal, Brandie. You are most creative!

All the beast!

Wulf Moon


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Posted : March 29, 2020 12:41 pm
Beth Powers
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I'm in with my 50th entry! wotf045


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Posted : March 29, 2020 4:58 pm
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I'm in with my 50th entry! wotf045

Never give up! Never surrender! wotf007

Good work, Beth!


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Posted : March 29, 2020 6:32 pm
Henckel
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I'm in with my 50th entry! wotf045

Beth, that is super awesome. Worthy of celebrating.

Good luck.


WOTF Stats
(2014) V31 – R
(2018) V35 – HM
(2019) V36 – HM, SHM
(2020) V37 – R, HM, SHM, Finalist
(2021) V38 – SF, SHM, SHM, HM
(2022) V39 – HM, SHM, SHM, SHM
(2023) V40 - HM, SF, tba, tba

 
Posted : March 29, 2020 8:16 pm
chuckt
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I'm in!

Had to sign up anew. Sometimes it has made me do this and sometimes not. Is there a rhyme or reason to this?


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Posted : March 30, 2020 3:11 am
Disgruntled Peony
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I'm in!

Had to sign up anew. Sometimes it has made me do this and sometimes not. Is there a rhyme or reason to this?

I've had to sign up fresh every quarter for the last year or so. I think it's supposed to work that way (they say you'll need to on the site).


If you are in difficulties with a book, try the element of surprise: attack it at an hour when it isn't expecting it. ~ H.G. Wells
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R, SF, SHM, SHM, SHM, F, R, HM, SHM, R, HM, R, F, SHM, SHM, SHM, SF, SHM, 1st Place (Q2 V38)
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Posted : March 30, 2020 3:16 am
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Thanks Wulf Moon! I added more elements up front in a way that I hope made it clear stuff was coming without giving everything away. I guess we'll see! Hopefully, we can meet up at a future Gala. Glad you liked my dress. Not sure I'll ever be able to top that!


 
Posted : March 30, 2020 4:21 am
Dustin Adams
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I'm in with my 50th entry! wotf045

Awesome!!

As for signing in anew, I have a user name and password which brings me to the screen where I type in all my info. It's kinda the same. I think signing up gets you on the mailing list. Some have, in the past, complained about this. They say, I just want to submit my story, not receive e-mails. But others appreciate the writing tips, etc. I've noticed a decrease in Hubbard-as-author e-mails, but maybe my program is filtering them out... Either way, you do need to type all your info in each time you submit.


Career: 1x Win -- 2x NW-F -- 2x S-F -- 9x S-HM -- 11x HM -- 7x R
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Posted : March 30, 2020 4:51 am
JVAshley
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I might slip in under the wire again.

I am sorry that I have been out of the forum loop for a while. I have been dodging all quarantined minions in my house and attempting to edit a novel. I hoped it would be complete last year, but spinal surgery took longer to recover from than I had hoped. (But not as long as I had feared) During that time, my mind was quite muddled--although I did submit each quarter of V36--to lessoning degrees of success.

This morning, I am cleaning up a short (possibly too short) story and should have it polished and submitted today. I am a wary of its chances at success. About half the stories I submitted the past year or two, have not feel like WotF stories. To win, I know that I should write to the market. But these stories bubble up, and I hate to pass them over without running them through the WotF gauntlet before searching for a more appropriate audience.

*sigh*

This is one such story. But it is lovely to me, and it is the only polished piece I have with under two days to submit. Soooo...better in than not.

I wish you all the best success in WotF and in the greater SFF world. wotf009


~ J V Ashley

 
Posted : March 30, 2020 5:09 am
DoctorJest
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Okay, and I've submitted.

I couldn't reacquire or reset my password this time, but it let me create a new account with the same email address, so no harm done (and I received the "thank you for your entry" email, so I'll take that as a good sign).

I've been very quiet on the forum of late, but have appreciated the bits and pieces of contact I've had (thanks much to Dustin Adams in particular!) that helped keep my spirits up and my groove going better than I think I might have managed by myself right now.

Fingers crossed for both of us!


DQ:0 / R:0 / RWC:2 / HM:15 / SHM:7 / SF:1 / F:1
Pending: Q3.V42

 
Posted : March 30, 2020 5:28 pm
HermioneLee
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Best of luck to everyone who entered! I’ve submitted mine on 3/21, but now I’m wondering if I should’ve revised it a few more times before entering...anyway, I still have quarter three to look forward to Smile


V37: R, R, R, R
V38: R, R, HM, R
V39: HM, HM, HM, HM
V40: HM, X, X, X
V41: X, X, X, X
V42: X, (submitted and fingers crossed)

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Posted : March 31, 2020 1:19 am
 BeeW
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Entered. Later then I planned, but happy I got it in with all the chaos of the real world. =)


V37Q1: HM
V37Q2: HM
V37Q3: R
V37Q4: ?

 
Posted : March 31, 2020 2:11 am
chuckt
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Lol. I just found a blatant mistake in my entry. Strange how you can edit as much as you want but something might still get by you. My first readers all missed it too. Fortunately, it is easy to read right past it and it's near the end so I don't think it would kill my chance if the story is otherwise good enough. Smile
Congrats to everyone who got a story in. I hope the winners are all forumites!


Chuck Thompson
6 Rs, 5 HMs, 2 SHMs

 
Posted : March 31, 2020 3:28 am
mikewyantjr
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I'm in as well with an edit of a previous HM.

Good luck to everyone!


WotF Results:

R:6
HM:17
SHM:1
SF:3
F:0
Last: SF, Q2 v41

 
Posted : March 31, 2020 5:49 am
Dustin Adams
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Okay, and I've submitted.

I've been very quiet on the forum of late, but have appreciated the bits and pieces of contact I've had (thanks much to Dustin Adams in particular!) that helped keep my spirits up and my groove going better than I think I might have managed by myself right now.

Fingers crossed for both of us!

No problemo! Was a cool story, and I demand* you send me your Q3 when ready.

* And by demand I mean totally optional if you want.


Career: 1x Win -- 2x NW-F -- 2x S-F -- 9x S-HM -- 11x HM -- 7x R
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Posted : March 31, 2020 6:01 am
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I'm in. Submitted a previous HM.


 
Posted : March 31, 2020 8:04 am
storysinger
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I submitted a fresh story for this quarter. May the bet prevail. wotf010


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Posted : March 31, 2020 8:32 am
JVAshley
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I'm In!

I had to spend the morning hooking the kiddos up intravenously to computers for remote classes. But got the edits in this afternoon with help from Will and Dustin!

The best part about submitting is being able to share brownies in the pillow fort when the results start rolling in. Well, that is the best part so far. I assume it gets even better if you win and can crawl out of the pillow fort and put on sparkly clothes and attend the Gala. But for now, I am fluffing my pillow and heating up the oven.


~ J V Ashley

 
Posted : March 31, 2020 9:40 am
Retropianoplayer
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JV Ashley, what genre is your novel in which you're editing?

Has anyone heard of or from Girl In The Glasses? I hope she is healthy and doing well, and her family is well.

I recently learned the ONLY advantage to being a senior citizen – they let you in an hour before everyone else at Super Fry's when you're grocery shopping or waiting at Target for cleaning wipes.

Best,

Retro


 
Posted : March 31, 2020 11:26 am
JVAshley
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JV Ashley, what genre is your novel in which you're editing?

It is a Young Adult Contemporary Fantasy. wotf008

Has anyone heard of or from Girl In The Glasses? I hope she is healthy and doing well, and her family is well.

I have not heard from here.
Are you out there? Are you Okay? Send up a flare so we know if you need help or are okay. wotf005


~ J V Ashley

 
Posted : March 31, 2020 12:11 pm
DoctorJest
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Okay, and I've submitted.

I've been very quiet on the forum of late, but have appreciated the bits and pieces of contact I've had (thanks much to Dustin Adams in particular!) that helped keep my spirits up and my groove going better than I think I might have managed by myself right now.

Fingers crossed for both of us!

No problemo! Was a cool story, and I demand* you send me your Q3 when ready.

* And by demand I mean totally optional if you want.

You have a deal there! 🙂


DQ:0 / R:0 / RWC:2 / HM:15 / SHM:7 / SF:1 / F:1
Pending: Q3.V42

 
Posted : March 31, 2020 2:06 pm
SwiftPotato
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Three hours left, friends! Best of luck to those who have already submitted to Q2, and godspeed to those still rushing to meet the deadline!


R, 3rd place Q4 v36!!!
Stories in Apocalyptic, Cossmass Infinites x2! PodCastle, Spirit Machine; forthcoming in Beneath Ceaseless Skies, Apex Magazine, Human Monsters

 
Posted : March 31, 2020 3:56 pm
(@thomas-woodward)
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Just submitted. Best of luck to everyone!


5x R
10x HM
2020 Superstars Writing Seminar scholarship award recipient
"No subject is terrible if the story is true, if the prose is clean and honest, and if it affirms courage and grace under pressure." — Ernest Hemingway

 
Posted : March 31, 2020 4:18 pm
Alex Harford
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So I've just submitted my 13th story this quarter under my 13th pseudonym. What a rush!

It's April Fool's Day - of course I'm joking! wotf007

It is approaching 8am here in the UK though - I've now been awake for 24 hours straight and start work in 2 hours! If it wasn't for this working-from-home malarky, I'd have to be on my way soon.

My one story is in. I changed my mind on what to submit quite late on, and wish I had more time, but I bet most people didn't have until 8am.

I better go to the toilet, clean my teeth and get some sleep.

Best wishes everyone. wotf008


35: - R R R | 36: R HM R R | 37: HM HM HM SHM | 38: HM HM HM HM | 39: HM HM HM SHM | 40: HM R SHM SHM | 41: R HM SHM R
5 SHM / 13 HM / 9 R

 
Posted : March 31, 2020 6:51 pm
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When does Q3 begin?


"Art is not a handicraft, it is the transmission of feeling the artist has experienced." ~ Leo Tolstoy

 
Posted : March 31, 2020 7:45 pm
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