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Corbin.Maxwell
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@rschibler I’ve been writing 20 years now and have been entering WOTF since 2005. So yeah it’s not a race; it’s a lifetime marathon. 

I ain't cut out to be no Jesse James.

 
Posted : November 29, 2021 9:39 pm
Corbin.Maxwell
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@craydimensional 

Yeah, a cert would be nice. Always writing to win. Certs are great encouragers!

Keep writing and the certs will begin to multiply. Sometimes a single HM in a bad year can keep you going for the next year. That is until one becomes addicted, and then it doesn’t matter because you’ll write no matter what. 

I ain't cut out to be no Jesse James.

 
Posted : November 29, 2021 9:45 pm
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Corbin.Maxwell
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@rschibler I’ve been writing 20 years now and have been entering WOTF since 2005. So yeah it’s not a race; it’s a lifelong marathon. 

I ain't cut out to be no Jesse James.

 
Posted : November 29, 2021 9:49 pm
angelslayah
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Posted by: @ehonour
 I have submitted some to markets beyond SF&F, because they are literary enough that they may be of interest to other markets. I am gathering the stories toward the goal of self-publishing a couple of anthologies. (I'm also working on a novel.)

Yeah, i sometimes spill over into lit. Sometimes i write POETRY! Which is great for the rejection mill, cause no one wants it, but slows down rejections overall cause markets hardly read it. I picture the lone poetry reader with tissue boxes for slippers, in a cardigan so stained and worn it’s hard to actually see

I know self publishing is a path for success, for many. It’s prolly my age that makes me wary of it. But i have a small collection from the 1990s i might try it with… Any good resources onnit?

@DonMarkmaker

 
Posted : November 30, 2021 2:46 am
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Posted by: @angelslayah

Yeah, i sometimes spill over into lit. Sometimes i write POETRY! 

I know self publishing is a path for success, for many. It’s prolly my age that makes me wary of it. But i have a small collection from the 1990s i might try it with… Any good resources onnit?

Poetry! Whew, there's a tough one. I've read so much BAD poetry in SF magazines that I mostly just don't even read it any more. Except that it's short, so it reads quickly.

For self-publishing, our local writers league had a very good presentation on it recently. Here are links that might work:

SLIDES ONLY:   https://tinyurl.com/f943xr6z/

SLIDES PLUS AUDIO:   https://tinyurl.com/3tpbt5jj/

The key difference is that publishers can sell thousands of copies of your work, but only give you a pittance as royalty. In self-publishing, you might sell hundreds of copies but get as much as 70% of the return. The path into regular publishing is through agents; publishers mostly don't even look at unsolicited manuscripts. For older authors, like myself, agents don't want to bother working with you because they want a long-term return on their investment of time.

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V38 HMx2; V39 HMx2, RWC, DQ (oops)
V40 SF(!), HM; RWCx2; V41 HM, RWCx2, DQ (what, again!)
V42 Q1:Sub

 
Posted : November 30, 2021 6:51 am
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I know self publishing is a path for success, for many. It’s prolly my age that makes me wary of it. But i have a small collection from the 1990s i might try it with… Any good resources onnit?

There's a Facebook group called 20 Books to 50k that has some good self-publishing resources.

SHM x2
HM x2

 
Posted : November 30, 2021 7:34 am
pdblake
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I'm up to 45 rejections this year. One yesterday and another today but three submissions today including wotf Q1. 

I've not written as much as usual this year. 

R:6 RWC:1 HM:9 SHM:3
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Posted : November 30, 2021 12:47 pm
Disgruntled Peony
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I'm up to 63 R's for the year. It'd be more if I had more writing time; most of my stories are going to markets with long waits, these days. I haven't had time to write anything but flash since, I think, May or June? Didn't even consider sending out flash until September. The flash has helped boost my numbers, though.

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R, SF, SHM, SHM, SHM, F, R, HM, SHM, R, HM, R, F, SHM, SHM, SHM, SF, SHM, 1st Place (Q2 V38)
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Posted : December 1, 2021 6:00 am
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DoctorJest
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I've just cracked 40 rejections recently, but that's a marked turn, the most submissions I've put out since 2016/2017 when I was at my most active. I'll be hoping to push that number higher again in 2022, though.

DQ:0 / R:0 / RWC:0 / HM:15 / SHM:7 / SF:1 / F:1
Published prior WotF entries: PodCastle, HFQ, Abyss & Apex
Submitted for Q1 V42 / Drafting Q2 V42

 
Posted : December 1, 2021 1:03 pm
Cray Dimensional
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Lessen learned. Don’t fear rejections even the best get them. Just keep trudging along. 2 more results to come in for this year from this contest.

Small steps add up to miles.
5 R, 4 RWC, 6 HM, 1 SHM
"Amore For Life" in After the Gold Rush Third Flatiron Anthology
"Freedom’s Song” in Troubadour and Space Princesses LTUE Anthology
"Experimenting with the Dance of Death" in Love is Complicated LUW Romance Anthology.

 
Posted : December 1, 2021 2:02 pm
Corbin.Maxwell
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This year so far I've written one story, which is my Q3, and I'm in rough draft writing for a second story that will probably be Q1. I don't rack up the rejections like everyone else because I don't have a rejection goal. I have a goal of writing stories in such a fashion as to satisfy my writer soul.  

I ain't cut out to be no Jesse James.

 
Posted : December 1, 2021 2:02 pm
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N.V. Haskell
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I'm probably at around 15-20 rejections for the year but I don't submit as much as I should, and there are several pendings for my last manuscript and a couple of short stories still out there. 

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'The War Within' Deep Magic Volume 73 https://deepmagic.co
'Spirit Talk' in The Last Line Issue 7 Winter
'The Mystical Farrago' Writers of the Future, Volume 38
'The Dying Book' Misfits of Magic Anthology
'Whatever Lola Wants' Murderbirds Anthology
'Inspirational Theurgist' Of Wizards and Wolves Anthology for the David Farland memorial fund
'Beneath the Glass Dark' From the Depths Anthology
'A Life of Color' Metaphorosis magazine 8/1/2023
'A Murmuring Darkness' Strange Horizons 9/18/2023
'Out There With Them' Robotic Ambitions-Apex publishing
'The Skykeeper's Daughter' Dragon Gems Winter 2024 Anthology --this story was written in 24 hours at the WoTF workshop.
Temporary Tales of Magic and Hope -- A Short Story Collection of New and Previously Published works.
'A Widow's Word' Murderbugs Anthology
'Whitechapel' The Vampire Survival Guide Anthology
Coming Soon The Malice of Moons and Mages, Book 1 of The Broken Bonds of Magic Series
V37- R, HM, SHM, HM
V38- HM, SHM, Winner (3rd place)

 
Posted : December 1, 2021 2:33 pm
Jason Toth
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Just as a heads up, emails will be going out within the next few hours and final blog posting will be going up by tomorrow.

Sorry for the long wait and good luck to everyone!!!!!!

Jason & Team

 
Posted : December 1, 2021 8:01 pm
Henckel
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Thanks for the update, @jason 

WOTF Stats
(2014) V31 – R
(2018) V35 – HM
(2019) V36 – HM, SHM
(2020) V37 – R, HM, SHM, Finalist
(2021) V38 – SF, SHM, SHM, HM
(2022) V39 – HM, SHM, SHM, SHM
(2023) V40 - HM, SF, tba, tba

 
Posted : December 1, 2021 8:12 pm
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crlisle
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Thanks Jason!

Vol. 36: 3rd -- R, 4th -- R
Vol. 37: R, HM, HM, SHM
Vol. 38: HM, HM, HM, HM
Vol. 39: SHM, RWC, RWC, HM
Vol. 40: HM, R, RWC, R
Vol. 41: R, HM, HM, HM
Vol. 42: 1st -- pending

Amateur published stories:
"The Army Ration That Saved the Earth" -- Accepted for publication, waiting for contract
"The Tell-Tale Cricket" in The Murderbugs Anthololgy
"Follow the Pretrons" in Martian Magazine, and a Critters Award
"Eyes and Hands" in Galaxy's Edge Magazine
"The Last Dance" in Parliament of Wizards, LTUE anthology
"My Ten Cents" in Sci Fi Lampoon
Professional Publication:
"Invasion" in Daily Science Fiction

 
Posted : December 1, 2021 8:39 pm
Prate Gabble
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Posted by: @jason

Just as a heads up, emails will be going out within the next few hours and final blog posting will be going up by tomorrow.

Sorry for the long wait and good luck to everyone!!!!!!

Jason & Team

Thursday Thursday?

F x 3

 
Posted : December 1, 2021 9:12 pm
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@kent 

It's certainly Thursday somewhere at this point, so it counts sunny  

(7) HM, (2) SHM

 
Posted : December 1, 2021 9:18 pm
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Posted by: @jason

Just as a heads up, emails will be going out within the next few hours and final blog posting will be going up by tomorrow.

Sorry for the long wait and good luck to everyone!!!!!!

Jason & Team

Thanks for all your hard work on Q3, Jason. I know it was a beast, but it’s finally over. Hats off to all of you for the work you do! 

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Posted : December 1, 2021 9:31 pm
Jason Toth
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Okay, I wanted to let everyone know still final programing going on and will be closer to the morning as one last little bug ironing out on the email. Not a big bug but I wanted to alert anyone that is waiting to go to sleep looking at their email inbox...

For the record I have the list of winners!!!! That is not the bug.

Jason

 
Posted : December 1, 2021 10:34 pm
DoctorJest
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Posted by: @jason

Okay, I wanted to let everyone know still final programing going on and will be closer to the morning as one last little bug ironing out on the email. Not a big bug but I wanted to alert anyone that is waiting to go to sleep looking at their email inbox...

For the record I have the list of winners!!!! That is not the bug.

Jason

Most appreciated! I would likely have kept myself awake to keep an eye out for it at least, so it's good to know I can just wake up to it tomorrow instead.

DQ:0 / R:0 / RWC:0 / HM:15 / SHM:7 / SF:1 / F:1
Published prior WotF entries: PodCastle, HFQ, Abyss & Apex
Submitted for Q1 V42 / Drafting Q2 V42

 
Posted : December 1, 2021 11:08 pm
PenMark
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@jason Having just stayed up late to debug one of my programming assignments, I both sympathize with and deeply appreciate your efforts. Thank you for all the hard work!

V37: -, -, R, SHM
V38: R, SHM, HM, HM
V39: SHM, HM, HM, ?

 
Posted : December 1, 2021 11:43 pm
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MountainSpud
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Many thanks, @jason! I appreciate all your and your team's hard work! 

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V40: Q1 3rd Place Winner ("Squiddy")
V39: SHM, HM, HM, HM
V38: HM, SHM, HM, HM
V37: R, R, HM, HM
V36: R

 
Posted : December 2, 2021 3:34 am
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Scott_M_Sands
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@jason 

Would definitely have stayed up just a bit longer.

Thanks for the heads up, Jason.  Smile

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V36-37: R x6
V38: R, HM, R, HM
V39: HM, HM, HM, HM
V40: HM, HM, SHM, HM
V41: RWC, P

 
Posted : December 2, 2021 4:03 am
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Cray Dimensional
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@jason thank you for update.

Small steps add up to miles.
5 R, 4 RWC, 6 HM, 1 SHM
"Amore For Life" in After the Gold Rush Third Flatiron Anthology
"Freedom’s Song” in Troubadour and Space Princesses LTUE Anthology
"Experimenting with the Dance of Death" in Love is Complicated LUW Romance Anthology.

 
Posted : December 2, 2021 4:36 am
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RETreasure
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Thanks to everyone at Author Services! I am sure this has been super stressful and led to long hours. Hopefully all bugs are squashed! Your hard work is much appreciated @jason

V34: R,HM,R
V35: HM,R,R,HM
V36: R,HM,HM,SHM
V37: HM,SF,SHM,SHM
V38: (P)F, SHM, F, F
V39: SHM, SHM, HM, SHM
Published Finalist Volume 38
Pro’d out Q4V39
www.rebeccaetreasure.com

Managing Editor, Apex Magazine

 
Posted : December 2, 2021 5:20 am
Dragonchef
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image

3 HMs
6 SHMs
Umpteen Rs
Still hoping and working toward better -
One of these days, Alice . . . POW! We're going to the moon!

 
Posted : December 2, 2021 7:48 am
Dom
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@dragonchef 

Is this drawing and your avatar your own artwork, DragonChef? If so, very cool! Oh to have artistic talent!

(7) HM, (2) SHM

 
Posted : December 2, 2021 8:05 am
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< Is this drawing and your avatar your own artwork, DragonChef? If so, very cool! Oh to have artistic talent!>

@dommichaels  Naw - I wish. courtesy of Google Images.

3 HMs
6 SHMs
Umpteen Rs
Still hoping and working toward better -
One of these days, Alice . . . POW! We're going to the moon!

 
Posted : December 2, 2021 8:45 am
Dom
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@dragonchef 

Haha, the power of the internet. As someone once said, "Originality is the art of concealing your sources." Harder and harder to do these days, so on top of it just being the right thing, best to always be honest!

(7) HM, (2) SHM

 
Posted : December 2, 2021 9:19 am
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RETreasure
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Now that the blog post is up, I can talk! It's been absolutely awful keeping this information to myself, especially after the news leaked out anyway, but I was asked to wait. My heart has been aching for everyone and I hope that finding out where you placed eases that ache for many of you.

That being said, I am excited to announce that finalist but rejection  

 

It was the craziest quarter I've ever heard of. Joni called me on a Monday afternoon to tell me I'd made finalist, and called me back Thursday evening to let me know I hadn't placed. Four days, and I was gagged the whole time. I'm still processing.

I missed being able to celebrate the finalist with everyone--it made the not-win a little harder to bear. The first time I made finalist I was so thrilled to have proven it was possible I didn't care about winning. Well, this time I did. I love the story and I wanted it to be my way to the workshop. Alas, it was not to be. I have great hopes for my Q4 story, and such hope for everyone here, too.

SUPER CONGRATS TO N.V. Haskell and the other winners and finalists.

I know it feels like a hollow sentiment, but finishing and submitting a story is something to be proud of, regardless of how it fares here or elsewhere in the writing world. If you're feeling down about your results, hang in there! Look at my signature--sometimes it takes time to figure out what we're doing! Take heart and keep writing.

V34: R,HM,R
V35: HM,R,R,HM
V36: R,HM,HM,SHM
V37: HM,SF,SHM,SHM
V38: (P)F, SHM, F, F
V39: SHM, SHM, HM, SHM
Published Finalist Volume 38
Pro’d out Q4V39
www.rebeccaetreasure.com

Managing Editor, Apex Magazine

 
Posted : December 2, 2021 10:48 am
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