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RETreasure
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Posted by: @axeminister

I'm sure Joni will confirm to you, but she has said to several inquiries that I'm aware of that flash does not count. It's not, in the eyes of the contest's definition, a count-against-your-total sale.

I'd be at 3 if it was. Far as I understand, I'm at 0.

That was my understanding until there was a big announcement at DragonCon (I think??) that "The contest is taking flash now". While they always did, I wondered if that announcement meant the qualifying sales rule had shifted too. 

V34: R,HM,R
V35: HM,R,R,HM
V36: R,HM,HM,SHM
V37: HM,SF,SHM,SHM
V38: (P)F, SHM, F, F
V39: SHM, SHM, HM, SHM
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Posted : June 24, 2022 1:01 pm
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Posted by: @rschibler

As for #5, I have a number of stories that aren't trunked but are out of suitable markets - I keep them around in case there's an anthology that they fit or a new market opens up.

Right. That's what I've been doing, too. About half of my stories are actually aimed at an upcoming self-published anthology Tales of Verdant, all placed on the same future world. The others will likely accumulate to another anthology.

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V38 HMx2; V39 HMx2, RWC, DQ (oops)
V40 SF(!), HM; RWCx2; V41 HM, RWCx2, DQ (what, again!)
V42 Q1:R, Sub

 
Posted : June 24, 2022 1:06 pm
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I asked Joni specifically about flash before, and she said they don’t count it. You should be good!

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— W. Somerset Maugham

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Posted : June 24, 2022 1:25 pm
catherine
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Q3 submitted! whew!

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V37 Q2 HM
V39 Q2 HM, Q3 SHM, Q4 HM
V40 Q1 HM, Q2 HM, Q3 RWC, Q4 HM
V41 Q1 HM
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Posted : June 24, 2022 5:29 pm
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@cweaver Way to go.

Small steps add up to miles.
5 R, 5 RWC, 6 HM, 1 SHM
"Amore For Life" in After the Gold Rush Third Flatiron Anthology
"Freedom’s Song” in Troubadour and Space Princesses LTUE Anthology
"Experimenting with the Dance of Death" in Love is Complicated LUW Romance Anthology.

 
Posted : June 24, 2022 6:46 pm
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In for Q3, and very pleased with my story. Feels like my best yet, at least for this contest. We shall see. Onward!

(7) HM, (2) SHM

 
Posted : June 24, 2022 9:05 pm
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Posted by: @rschibler
Posted by: @axeminister

I'm sure Joni will confirm to you, but she has said to several inquiries that I'm aware of that flash does not count. It's not, in the eyes of the contest's definition, a count-against-your-total sale.

I'd be at 3 if it was. Far as I understand, I'm at 0.

That was my understanding until there was a big announcement at DragonCon (I think??) that "The contest is taking flash now". While they always did, I wondered if that announcement meant the qualifying sales rule had shifted too. 

Aah. Gotcha.

That would be a rough change. Then the question would be when. Starting with the announcement any sales, or going back? That would DQ a bunch of people immediately.

I have a feeling it's just a reminder/announcement to request people submit what they might not have otherwise.

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Posted : June 25, 2022 2:47 am
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Right now, the read of the rules doesn't include flash fiction -- after all, "flash fiction" and "short story" have distinct and different meanings in our professional nomenclature, and the rules only mention the latter. And...

Hmmm.

I was just about to refer to the SFWA here, as they used to have their rules based in number of sales at pro-rate and above 1000 words, but it looks like their rules have changed since March this year, and now it appears that their criteria are rooted in total earnings from genre fiction sales instead, regardless of rate or length. It still makes reference to the markets, but it looks like you may be able to qualify for SFWA membership from cumulative sales to any market now, not just the pro-rate ones, though I'm absolutely going to reach out and ask about this to be certain of that.

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Posted : June 25, 2022 9:39 am
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Okay, 5 days left... Just saying... If anyone needs tech help or has issues reach out to me as I am here to help as needed.

 

 
Posted : June 25, 2022 5:49 pm
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I'm in for 3rd qtr 2022! grinning  

Vol. 36: 3rd -- R, 4th -- R
Vol. 37: R, HM, HM, SHM
Vol. 38: HM, HM, HM, HM
Vol. 39: SHM, RWC, RWC, HM
Vol. 40: HM, R, RWC, R
Vol. 41: R, HM, HM, HM
Vol. 42: R, 2nd qtr. pending, 3rd qtr. WIP

Amateur published stories:
"The Army Ration That Saved the Earth" in For Glory and Honor, LTUE 2026 anthology
"The Tell-Tale Cricket" in The Murderbugs Anthololgy
"Follow the Pretrons" in Martian Magazine, and a Critters Award
"Eyes and Hands" in Galaxy's Edge Magazine
"The Last Dance" in Parliament of Wizards, LTUE anthology
"My Ten Cents" in Sci Fi Lampoon
Professional Publication:
"Invasion" in Daily Science Fiction

 
Posted : June 27, 2022 8:17 pm
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@jason I know that when I hit submit at the final stage of entry that is it. Done. But... I can't help but think that there should be a way to update your entry up to the cut-off date.  I'm one of those writers who edit, a lot. Can you say obsessive-compulsive?  I know I hit submit too early and have updates to my story. My fault and I'll live with it. But... 

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right."~ Henry Ford

2025 V42: RWC, (HM Resubmit), Editing, ?
2024 V41: RWC (HM Resubmit), HM, RWC, Finalist (RWC Resubmit)
2023 V40: HM, HM, R, HM
2022 V39: SHM, HM, Semi-finalist, HM (HM Resubmit)
2021 V38: ---HM (R Resubmit)
2020 V37: -R--

 
Posted : June 27, 2022 8:22 pm
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@toddjones that is not a bad idea. I will see if the submission system allows the story to be updated while the submission window is still open. Not sure if that is an option or not, but I hear you and will check it out. If you really want you can PM the updated and I can switch it out in the back end for you...

 
Posted : June 27, 2022 10:29 pm
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Posted by: @jason

@toddjones that is not a bad idea. I will see if the submission system allows the story to be updated while the submission window is still open. Not sure if that is an option or not, but I hear you and will check it out. If you really want you can PM the updated and I can switch it out in the back end for you...

Very kind of you, Jason. You always serve so well here.

However, this submission issue echoes what happens out there in the marketing world. Nearly all the magazines strongly discourage (or deny) resubmissions. They usually say, "Write it right, and give us your best shot first."

Write so long as words keep flowing...
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V38 HMx2; V39 HMx2, RWC, DQ (oops)
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V42 Q1:R, Sub

 
Posted : June 28, 2022 4:24 am
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Posted by: @toddjones

@jason I know that when I hit submit at the final stage of entry that is it. Done. But... I can't help but think that there should be a way to update your entry up to the cut-off date.  I'm one of those writers who edit, a lot. Can you say obsessive-compulsive?  I know I hit submit too early and have updates to my story. My fault and I'll live with it. But... 

I can't imagine that Kary waits until after the deadline to begin reading stories, but I could be wrong. With so many entries each quarter, if it were me, I'd start reading as soon as they started coming in just to get through them all. That could explain why there are no re-submissions after you enter.

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Posted : June 28, 2022 5:19 am
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I'm in for Q3. Let the little Kraken sail.

It's always nice when you enjoyed writing a story. I really did with this one.

"If writing is easy, you're doing it wrong." -Bryan Hutchinson
V36-37: R x6
V38: R, HM, R, HM
V39: HM, HM, HM, HM
V40: HM, HM, SHM, HM
V41: RWC, P

 
Posted : June 28, 2022 7:54 am
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@morgan-broadhead think I'd do the same. 

R:6 RWC:1 HM:9 SHM:3
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Posted : June 28, 2022 7:55 am
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@toddjones After checking into this further once it is submitted it rolls into a series of automated steps that won't allow the story to be updated.

Again if someone makes a mistake I can manually switch it out if it has not already moved on to review. That being said double check your story before you click the SUBMIT!

Good luck!

 

 
Posted : June 28, 2022 8:27 am
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Posted by: @toddjones

@jason I know that when I hit submit at the final stage of entry that is it. Done. But... I can't help but think that there should be a way to update your entry up to the cut-off date.  I'm one of those writers who edit, a lot. Can you say obsessive-compulsive?  I know I hit submit too early and have updates to my story. My fault and I'll live with it. But... 

Ha, I'm the same way! Drives my trusted critique partners crazy ... "no, read this one instead". But I used to over-edit. Almost ruined a great story's ending one time ... fortunately one of my first readers said, "Change it back!" They were right. Haven't done that since, so maybe an old dog can still learn.

Good luck everyone on Q3!

(7) HM, (2) SHM

 
Posted : June 28, 2022 9:31 am
David Hankins
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Posted by: @scott_m_sands

I'm in for Q3. Let the little Kraken sail.

It's always nice when you enjoyed writing a story. I really did with this one.

I loved the read I got of your story. Good luck!

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"The Missing Music in Milo Piper's Head" in Third Flatiron's Offshoots: Humanity Twigged
"To Catch a Foo Fighter" in DreamForge Magazine
"Milo Piper's Breakout Single that Ended the Rat War" in LTUE's Troubadours and Space Princesses anthology
"The Rise and Fall of Frankie's Patisserie" in Murderbugs anthology
"Felix and the Flamingo" in Escape Pod
"The Devil's Foot Locker" in Amazing Stories

 
Posted : June 28, 2022 2:42 pm
Cray Dimensional
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Still editing Q3. I think I can . .I need those new reading glasses.

Small steps add up to miles.
5 R, 5 RWC, 6 HM, 1 SHM
"Amore For Life" in After the Gold Rush Third Flatiron Anthology
"Freedom’s Song” in Troubadour and Space Princesses LTUE Anthology
"Experimenting with the Dance of Death" in Love is Complicated LUW Romance Anthology.

 
Posted : June 28, 2022 3:06 pm
David Hankins
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I'm in for Q3. Best of luck everyone!

Death and the Taxman, my WotF V39 winning story is now a novel! (Click Here >).
Death and the Dragon launches on Kickstarter August 27th. (Click Here >)
Subscribe to The Lost Bard's Letter at www.davidhankins.com and receive an exclusive novelette!

New Releases:
"The Missing Music in Milo Piper's Head" in Third Flatiron's Offshoots: Humanity Twigged
"To Catch a Foo Fighter" in DreamForge Magazine
"Milo Piper's Breakout Single that Ended the Rat War" in LTUE's Troubadours and Space Princesses anthology
"The Rise and Fall of Frankie's Patisserie" in Murderbugs anthology
"Felix and the Flamingo" in Escape Pod
"The Devil's Foot Locker" in Amazing Stories

 
Posted : June 28, 2022 5:59 pm
Scott_M_Sands
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@lost_bard 

Thanks, David!
That's really encouraging.

"If writing is easy, you're doing it wrong." -Bryan Hutchinson
V36-37: R x6
V38: R, HM, R, HM
V39: HM, HM, HM, HM
V40: HM, HM, SHM, HM
V41: RWC, P

 
Posted : June 28, 2022 7:39 pm
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@craydimensional I had the same problem last quarter. 

R:6 RWC:1 HM:9 SHM:3
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Small Gods and Little Demons - Parsec Issue #10

 
Posted : June 29, 2022 1:37 am
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Despite my insistence that I'll wait until the very last minute to submit, I'm now officially IN for Q3!

Onward and upward now for Q4.

"There are three rules to writing a novel. Unfortunately, no one knows what they are."
— W. Somerset Maugham

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SFx1
HMx5
R/RWCx6

 
Posted : June 29, 2022 5:51 am
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Jenny Perry Carr
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In for Q3! This was a squeaker. Drafted, critiques, revisions, polish all over the course of 2 weeks. Love when the stars align and it comes together quickly! It was an idea I've been sitting on a while, so I think my subconscious has been noodling/planning to help it flow when I actually sat down to write. Good luck everyone!

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V37: -, -, R, HM
V38: HM, R, HM, SHM
V39: HM, HM, R, R
V40: SHM
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Posted : June 29, 2022 6:18 am
Todd Jones
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Posted by: @ehonour
Posted by: @jason

@toddjones that is not a bad idea. I will see if the submission system allows the story to be updated while the submission window is still open. Not sure if that is an option or not, but I hear you and will check it out. If you really want you can PM the updated and I can switch it out in the back end for you...

Very kind of you, Jason. You always serve so well here.

However, this submission issue echoes what happens out there in the marketing world. Nearly all the magazines strongly discourage (or deny) resubmissions. They usually say, "Write it right, and give us your best shot first."

I agree, once submitted to a market it is submitted and done.

 

Hence my, "My fault and I'll live with it."

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right."~ Henry Ford

2025 V42: RWC, (HM Resubmit), Editing, ?
2024 V41: RWC (HM Resubmit), HM, RWC, Finalist (RWC Resubmit)
2023 V40: HM, HM, R, HM
2022 V39: SHM, HM, Semi-finalist, HM (HM Resubmit)
2021 V38: ---HM (R Resubmit)
2020 V37: -R--

 
Posted : June 29, 2022 7:34 am
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Posted by: @dommichaels
Posted by: @toddjones

@jason I know that when I hit submit at the final stage of entry that is it. Done. But... I can't help but think that there should be a way to update your entry up to the cut-off date.  I'm one of those writers who edit, a lot. Can you say obsessive-compulsive?  I know I hit submit too early and have updates to my story. My fault and I'll live with it. But... 

Ha, I'm the same way! Drives my trusted critique partners crazy ... "no, read this one instead". But I used to over-edit. Almost ruined a great story's ending one time ... fortunately one of my first readers said, "Change it back!" They were right. Haven't done that since, so maybe an old dog can still learn.

Good luck everyone on Q3!

The changes I made, since hitting the final submit too early, don't kill the story.  Just refine it.  So, "My fault and I'll live with it."

shrug

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right."~ Henry Ford

2025 V42: RWC, (HM Resubmit), Editing, ?
2024 V41: RWC (HM Resubmit), HM, RWC, Finalist (RWC Resubmit)
2023 V40: HM, HM, R, HM
2022 V39: SHM, HM, Semi-finalist, HM (HM Resubmit)
2021 V38: ---HM (R Resubmit)
2020 V37: -R--

 
Posted : June 29, 2022 7:39 am
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Posted by: @morgan-broadhead

Despite my insistence that I'll wait until the very last minute to submit, I'm now officially IN for Q3!

Ha, Morgan! Got you beat by a day, because I'm not putting mine in until tomorrow. I'm still waiting to see if I get another critique from my online group... giggle  

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FWA RPLA: 2021:Fx2; 2022:1st place Gold, 2023: 1st place Gold novel
V38 HMx2; V39 HMx2, RWC, DQ (oops)
V40 SF(!), HM; RWCx2; V41 HM, RWCx2, DQ (what, again!)
V42 Q1:R, Sub

 
Posted : June 29, 2022 11:51 am
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I'm in. Time to look at prompts for qtr 4

Small steps add up to miles.
5 R, 5 RWC, 6 HM, 1 SHM
"Amore For Life" in After the Gold Rush Third Flatiron Anthology
"Freedom’s Song” in Troubadour and Space Princesses LTUE Anthology
"Experimenting with the Dance of Death" in Love is Complicated LUW Romance Anthology.

 
Posted : June 29, 2022 4:20 pm
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Donovan Cedars
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Submitted! Huzzah! I'm feeling good about this one.

Maybe not a full, Wulf style write-my-acceptance-speech-now sort of optimism, but feeling pretty good all the same. ? 

Best of luck to all!

R- 1 or 2. Or 3. Possibly 25.
HM-8
SHM-0
SF-1
F-0
W-Inevitable

 
Posted : June 29, 2022 4:35 pm
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