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I forget who, but someone here pointed me in the direction of the James White Award.

I didn't make the shortlist, but I was on the longlist, so that's something, anyway. Thanks!

That's neat!

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Posted : April 2, 2015 8:39 am
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I didn't make the shortlist, but I was on the longlist, so that's something, anyway.

Et tu Stewart? Me too. Out of 255 entries. Not sure whether to be pleased or vexed. This story has now garnered two personals and a long list and I still haven't got it published!

Now I'm wondering whether it would still make sense to punt it to Interzone, who were amongst the sponsors of the competition, or whether I should consider that they have effectively had sight of it already.

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Posted : April 2, 2015 9:59 am
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Yeah, I was on that very same long list. Alas, I've been on that list before.

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Posted : April 2, 2015 1:21 pm
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I forget who, but someone here pointed me in the direction of the James White Award.

I didn't make the shortlist, but I was on the longlist, so that's something, anyway. Thanks!

I checked that out yesterday, I would like to enter that contest however I do not know if I have it in me to write something 6,000 words or less and make it a gripping enough story. Of course if one does not try one will never know - correct? I thank you for mentioning the James White Award I may give it a shot this coming year.

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Posted : April 2, 2015 9:09 pm
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What's all this?!? Stewart and Ishmael and Preston on the JWA longlist? Well, I'm on it too. We should have a Brit/half-Brit/honorary Brit celebratory cup of tea together. wotf005

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Posted : April 3, 2015 12:06 am
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So at least 4 out of the 28 JWA "semi-finalists" are fellow forumites? That's great, congrats to you all! wotf008

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Posted : April 3, 2015 1:02 am
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Hm. Maybe we should produce our own Also Ran Anthology? wotf002

Now what should we call it? White Out? It'll be All White On The Night? White Waiter Wafting?
Long Day's Journey into White? wotf012

How about The White Company (Reserves)?

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Posted : April 3, 2015 2:16 am
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Hm. Maybe we should produce our own Also Ran Anthology? wotf002

Yes. And I'm beginning to feel like I own this thread. wotf012

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Posted : April 3, 2015 4:15 am
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argh another rejection for this one story that's already gone through 15 rejections from pro markets. Half of those were personals, and it was held for further consideration three times before they changed their mind. So I know it has to be good, and that makes the constant rejections all the more frustrating. wotf027

It sounds less like "they changed their mind" and more like it maybe just wasn't a good fit for any number of other reasons. Props to you for having sent it out so many times, though. Go little story, go!

This kind of near miss is definitely more frustrating than the standard forms, though. (With which I have plenty of experience!)

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Posted : April 20, 2015 1:52 am
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Here is a sad tale of woe. wotf012

Last June I sent 15 pages of a novel I wrote to Clean Teen Publishing. It is one of the few places where you don't need an agent. I sent the pages over to help toughen up to rejection (realizing that it is part of a writer's rite of passage).

I got a reply a few days later from Dyan Brown, Chief Administrative Officer (I don't think she is there anymore) to send the rest of the novel, because the story piqued her interest.

Problem: The novel was done, but over half was still handwritten not digital. I thought I had plenty of time to get it into digital form, because it would be months before hearing back - if I were very, very lucky.

I blew it: I tried to transcribe and edit the rest too quickly (10 days); I made promises in the beginning and failed to deliver; some of my characters devolved rather than evolved which is fine if I did so intentionally; and my Wow moments were lackluster.

Definitely mixed feelings here, but am overcoming them and moving on.

 
Posted : May 4, 2015 4:17 am
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It is one of the few places where you don't need an agent.

You don't really need an agent for submissions. Even when the publishers say they do, they'll still take your submission if you send it to the right person. Back when I was submitting to trad publishers, I received many a personal response from the editors (which meant they had read the submission).

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Posted : May 4, 2015 5:41 am
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I had a story make the final short list of four for the last available place in a new anthology. Then it didn't get selected.

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Posted : May 9, 2015 10:40 pm
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My concern with sending in my work is the phrase, "First North American and foreign serial rights and an option on anthology rights. All other rights are retained by the author." I understand this allows the publisher to publish the work one time and I cannot offer it to anyone else during the publication. Would somebody please explain to this noob exactly what 'option on anthology rights' means?

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Posted : May 10, 2015 1:12 am
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My concern with sending in my work is the phrase, "First North American and foreign serial rights and an option on anthology rights. All other rights are retained by the author." I understand this allows the publisher to publish the work one time and I cannot offer it to anyone else during the publication. Would somebody please explain to this noob exactly what 'option on anthology rights' means?

Many publishers put out a "Best of" anthology from time to time, so they are buying the right to republish the story in one of their anthologies. They usually also stipulate that they will pay x per word additional if they do so.

 
Posted : May 10, 2015 4:23 am
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Wellp - I received one major compliment from Sizemore, but still rejected. I swear, when I read that email, I forgot all language and felt my heart beat the ribs outta me.

I don't know where to send this story, it's tone is..odd. Maybe Finlay? But from what I've read, I'm not sure it would fit in there. If F&SF rejects it, I'm just gonna give Tor a go (it feels like this story got a seal of approval somehow and I beam every time I think about it).

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Posted : May 19, 2015 5:48 pm
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Wellp - I received one major compliment from Sizemore, but still rejected. I swear, when I read that email, I forgot all language and felt my heart beat the ribs outta me.

I don't know where to send this story, it's tone is..odd. Maybe Finlay? But from what I've read, I'm not sure it would fit in there. If F&SF rejects it, I'm just gonna give Tor a go (it feels like this story got a seal of approval somehow and I beam every time I think about it).

Send it in anyway. Dean Wesley Smith has stated that you never know when a story will grab the attention of an editor even when it isn't quite what they are looking for. Of course this wouldn't work with sending a SF tale to a Fantasy market or the other way around, but if it is even sort of close send it. His wife has mentioned she has had to buy types of stories she never thought she would because if how they were written.

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Posted : May 20, 2015 5:08 pm
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Yeah, it's in their slush now wotf008

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Posted : May 27, 2015 5:36 am
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I just got the most amazing 28 day personal rejection from Cory Skerry at Tor.com for my latest submission. Among other things, it ended with: "Please send us more of your stories in the future. I would consider it a personal favor if you addressed your next cover letter to me so my co-workers will let me be the first to read it."

I don't even have mixed feelings. I'm just emotionally compromised in a good way. :')

It totally makes up for the time when Tor kept my story for almost a year and then gave me a form rejection.

That's a fabulous result short of sale.

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Posted : May 29, 2015 5:57 pm
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I just got the most amazing 28 day personal rejection from Cory Skerry at Tor.com for my latest submission. Among other things, it ended with: "Please send us more of your stories in the future. I would consider it a personal favor if you addressed your next cover letter to me so my co-workers will let me be the first to read it."

I don't even have mixed feelings. I'm just emotionally compromised in a good way. :')

It totally makes up for the time when Tor kept my story for almost a year and then gave me a form rejection.

And that is such a tough market! Bravo! wotf010

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Posted : May 29, 2015 9:28 pm
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I just got the most amazing 28 day personal rejection from Cory Skerry at Tor.com for my latest submission. Among other things, it ended with: "Please send us more of your stories in the future. I would consider it a personal favor if you addressed your next cover letter to me so my co-workers will let me be the first to read it."

I don't even have mixed feelings. I'm just emotionally compromised in a good way. :')

It totally makes up for the time when Tor kept my story for almost a year and then gave me a form rejection.

wotf010 That's definitely what I call an almost success. Great stuff! wotf006

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Posted : May 30, 2015 1:09 am
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I just got the most amazing 28 day personal rejection from Cory Skerry at Tor.com for my latest submission. Among other things, it ended with: "Please send us more of your stories in the future. I would consider it a personal favor if you addressed your next cover letter to me so my co-workers will let me be the first to read it."

I don't even have mixed feelings. I'm just emotionally compromised in a good way. :')

It totally makes up for the time when Tor kept my story for almost a year and then gave me a form rejection.

28 days! That's light speed for them. Or do they have a separate queue for flash fiction that is faster than the normal 120 + days?
Congrats on an awesome personal wotf007

 
Posted : May 30, 2015 5:29 am
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I just got the most amazing 28 day personal rejection from Cory Skerry at Tor.com for my latest submission. Among other things, it ended with: "Please send us more of your stories in the future. I would consider it a personal favor if you addressed your next cover letter to me so my co-workers will let me be the first to read it."

I don't even have mixed feelings. I'm just emotionally compromised in a good way. :')

It totally makes up for the time when Tor kept my story for almost a year and then gave me a form rejection.

Very nice wotf009

 
Posted : May 31, 2015 7:19 am
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I just got the most amazing 28 day personal rejection from Cory Skerry at Tor.com for my latest submission. Among other things, it ended with: "Please send us more of your stories in the future. I would consider it a personal favor if you addressed your next cover letter to me so my co-workers will let me be the first to read it."

I don't even have mixed feelings. I'm just emotionally compromised in a good way. :')

It totally makes up for the time when Tor kept my story for almost a year and then gave me a form rejection.

28 days! That's light speed for them. Or do they have a separate queue for flash fiction that is faster than the normal 120 + days?
Congrats on an awesome personal wotf007

I think that these days Tor has gone from c.365-day responses to c.28-day responses, which is amazing in itself. Funny thing, I had a story I wanted to forget about for a while so I submitted it to Tor; and now my hour of doom is approaching too fast wotf018

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Posted : June 1, 2015 4:31 am
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I just got the most amazing 28 day personal rejection from Cory Skerry at Tor.com for my latest submission. Among other things, it ended with: "Please send us more of your stories in the future. I would consider it a personal favor if you addressed your next cover letter to me so my co-workers will let me be the first to read it."

I don't even have mixed feelings. I'm just emotionally compromised in a good way. :')

It totally makes up for the time when Tor kept my story for almost a year and then gave me a form rejection.

28 days! That's light speed for them. Or do they have a separate queue for flash fiction that is faster than the normal 120 + days?
Congrats on an awesome personal wotf007

I think that these days Tor has gone from c.365-day responses to c.28-day responses, which is amazing in itself. Funny thing, I had a story I wanted to forget about for a while so I submitted it to Tor; and now my hour of doom is approaching too fast wotf018

Ah, I see now. They were closed to submissions for 3 months in which time they whittled down their slush pile by 90 days or so.

 
Posted : June 1, 2015 4:43 am
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Guess that explains my 31 day rejection. Didn't realize it was three months.

Oops, where did that idea go? I had it a minute ago....

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Posted : June 2, 2015 3:26 am
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I'd been expecting a lot of rejections this week, and many arrived indeed -- I had 5 rejections yesterday, which is a personal record. But there was an acceptance as well, so it wasn't all that bad after all! wotf014 wotf008 wotf005

George Nikolopoulos
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Fiction (EN): 43 stories sold, 29 published
Fiction (GR): c.10 stories published & a children’s novel
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Posted : June 17, 2015 12:46 am
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I'd been expecting a lot of rejections this week, and many arrived indeed -- I had 5 rejections yesterday, which is a personal record. But there was an acceptance as well, so it wasn't all that bad after all! wotf014 wotf008 wotf005

Congrats on the yes, and yeah getting a bunch in one day is downer.
There's story I heard from Connie Willis on how she nearly quiet when she went to the post and there was a stack of rejections, luckily for us she had some to send out and did it anyway and one of those was her first sale.

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Posted : June 17, 2015 2:55 am
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Five! The best I've done is four. Guess I'll have to send 'em out faster.
Congrats on the acceptance.

 
Posted : June 17, 2015 6:29 am
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Thanks, Amos and Bob!

I'm at 93 submissions so far in 2015, but rejections usually come in batches... wotf002

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Posted : June 17, 2015 10:39 pm
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For the first time ever, I reached the second round in Clarkesworld...aaaaand then got a form rejection.

It's a tough market, so 2nd round is awesome, even more so because I think myself a baby writer [both by age and experience]. I'm not sure Neil ever sends out personals, though.

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