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Kary English
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@ Corbin

*uploads large foofy latte - unless you're one of those who take it black and bitter in a styrofoam cup, in which case you can have that, instead*


WOTF: 1 HM, 1 Semi, 2 Finalists, 1 Winner
Q2,V31 - Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!
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Posted : April 5, 2012 5:36 am
Corbin.Maxwell
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@ Corbin

*uploads large foofy latte - unless you're one of those who take it black and bitter in a styrofoam cup, in which case you can have that, instead*

Well believe it or not, I'm actually doing some work for a change. So I'm not focused on WOTF, focused on doing job stuff (which you know what that is).


I ain't cut out to be no Jesse James.

 
Posted : April 5, 2012 5:42 am
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Well believe it or not, I'm actually doing some work for a change. So I'm not focused on WOTF, focused on doing job stuff (which you know what that is).

This would be somewhat more believable if you weren't posting about it on the WotF forums Smile


 
Posted : April 5, 2012 6:10 am
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Sorry to crush all the speculation.
Joe

No, no -- this is awesome. It's data. Awesome.


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Posted : April 5, 2012 6:12 am
Corbin.Maxwell
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Well believe it or not, I'm actually doing some work for a change. So I'm not focused on WOTF, focused on doing job stuff (which you know what that is).

This would be somewhat more believable if you weren't posting about it on the WotF forums Smile

That I'm doing work? Well I am, plus posting. I'm just more focused on work than the forum. Or at least I should be.


I ain't cut out to be no Jesse James.

 
Posted : April 5, 2012 6:19 am
Corbin.Maxwell
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@ Corbin

*uploads large foofy latte - unless you're one of those who take it black and bitter in a styrofoam cup, in which case you can have that, instead*

I don't drink foofy latte stuff. Just coffee with cream and sweet and low.


I ain't cut out to be no Jesse James.

 
Posted : April 5, 2012 6:27 am
 Isto
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All,

I couldnt' find my receipt for my entry and I'm pretty used to getting Rs by now, so I sent Joni an email to make sure they got my entry. This is what she said:

Dear Joe,

It is still being judged. You are in there just fine. Notices go out every week and this week more go out
tonight. It will take another month or so to get it all out.

Best,

Joni Labaqui

Thought you might like to know. Sorry to crush all the speculation.
Joe

"...or so to get it ALL out." Don't the critiques go out after the finalists are announced? Just a bit more speculation. wotf007


- Isto
R-R-Semi

 
Posted : April 5, 2012 8:43 am
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For Q4, the semi-finalists were not sworn to secrecy and they are notified after the finalists. So, I imagine, if we don't know the semi's yet, we probably don't know the finalists yet.

Ahhh, rejectomancy.

And yes, Martin, I'm writing, even as I sit here, camping the forum, I'm writing.


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Posted : April 5, 2012 9:19 am
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I keep alternating between two thoughts:

Is it nighttime yet?

and

Please don't let me get an email!

This isn't healthy!


 
Posted : April 5, 2012 9:57 am
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Well, crud. Form rejection arrived in my email today (for my e-submission). The form rejection doesn't insert author name or story title.

I'm a little extra bummed about this one because I thought this one a better fit than most of my submissions to WotF.


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Posted : April 5, 2012 10:36 am
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Well, crud. Form rejection arrived in my email today (for my e-submission). The form rejection doesn't insert author name or story title.

I'm a little extra bummed about this one because I thought this one a better fit than most of my submissions to WotF.

Ouch! That's a shocker.


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Posted : April 5, 2012 10:46 am
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Incoming! Duck and cover!

(New rejections are showing up on Duotrope.)

Edited to say: I didn't see steffenwolf's post. Sorry to hear that.


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Posted : April 5, 2012 10:54 am
Corbin.Maxwell
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Incoming! Duck and cover!

(New rejections are showing up on Duotrope.)

Edited to say: I didn't see steffenwolf's post. Sorry to hear that.

I just checked the email, I'm still in. Of course there's still plenty of hours left today to take a direct hit and get blasted.


I ain't cut out to be no Jesse James.

 
Posted : April 5, 2012 10:58 am
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Well, crud. Form rejection arrived in my email today (for my e-submission). The form rejection doesn't insert author name or story title.

I'm a little extra bummed about this one because I thought this one a better fit than most of my submissions to WotF.

Man down! Man down! MEEEEEDIIIIIIIIIC!

Bummer, Dave. Best of luck elsewhere with the story.


Amanda McCarter

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Honorable Mentions x5
Silver Honorable Mention x1
Semi-Finalist x1

 
Posted : April 5, 2012 11:05 am
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I just checked the email, I'm still in. Of course there's still plenty of hours left today to take a direct hit and get blasted.

I haven't received an email yet either, but I doubt the emails are over for the day. There are only two replies on duotrope, and one here. If all the results are really going to be completed in the next 4 weeks, I'd expect that much larger waves would need to be sent out.


 
Posted : April 5, 2012 11:06 am
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Sorry to hear it guys. wotf009
As of a minute ago, nothing in my inbox. Good luck to those remaining.


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HM: V29 Q2, V30 Q2
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Posted : April 5, 2012 11:45 am
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My condolences. Although it's nothing personal, it always feels like somebody kicked my dog.
I'm still in as of this moment. I have never before felt so ambivalent about e-mail. wotf002


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Q2 2012 - HM
Q1 2012 - HM
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Posted : April 5, 2012 11:54 am
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Commiserations, David.

I'm off to bed. I'm going to hide deep in my watery lair, and hope I still live by morning.


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Posted : April 5, 2012 12:01 pm
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Maybe, hopefully we'll see some HM's next week? Seems like we should be close. Not that any of it matters for me as a paper sub it just seems like my own personal fate will be a wildcard.


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Posted : April 5, 2012 12:07 pm
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Maybe, hopefully we'll see some HM's next week? Seems like we should be close. Not that any of it matters for me as a paper sub it just seems like my own personal fate will be a wildcard.

I'm surprised we haven't heard any reports of HMs. I would have expected them to start trickling out a couple weeks ago. Maybe Joni is waiting to send out all responses that aren't straight rejections at the same time. Except the winners, of course.


Jennifer Campbell-Hicks
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1X Finalist
2X Semi-finalist
2X Silver HM
13X HM

 
Posted : April 5, 2012 1:00 pm
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I'm surprised we haven't heard any reports of HMs. I would have expected them to start trickling out a couple weeks ago. Maybe Joni is waiting to send out all responses that aren't straight rejections at the same time. Except the winners, of course.

I could see that. Maybe even somehow tie it into the PR efforts for the gala, or shortly after.


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3rd Place Q1 V31
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Today I Am Carey from Baen
The Last Dance (#1 science fiction eBook on Amazon, October 2019) and The Last Campaign from 47North

 
Posted : April 5, 2012 1:19 pm
Preston Dennett
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[Maybe Joni is waiting to send out all responses that aren't straight rejections at the same time. Except the winners, of course.

Has this ever even happened before? Seems to me it's always been waves of rejections with little sprinklings of HMs mixed in. I don't think there has ever been a wave of pure HMs. One complete wave of HMs...hmmm...I hope so. Then a wave of SHMs, SFs and finally...finalists. Those would be some beautiful waves. I hope to ride one of them.
Hard to believe there are no HMs yet. The above scenario is looking more and more likely. Hope everybody's got their armor on. Won't be long now.
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F x 1
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Posted : April 5, 2012 2:57 pm
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In my experience there's been very little consistency. I remember quarters where we had several batches of rejections and then the HMs came at the end. There was at least one quarter when the HMs notifications didn't come out until after all of the results had been posted to the blog. Back when they were nothing but paper subs, the rejections would trickle in even more sporadically (I assume because, even though they went out in batches, shipping times vary, so if you lived in California you got your mail from the contest before I did on the East coast).

Rejectomancy with the contest is particularly difficult, because their methodology seems to change each quarter. (Or at least it's tweaked each quarter.)


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Posted : April 6, 2012 2:16 am
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Rejectomancy with the contest is particularly difficult, because their methodology seems to change each quarter. (Or at least it's tweaked each quarter.)

The secret pattern is... There is no pattern...


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3rd Place Q1 V31
"Today I Am Paul", WSFA Small Press Award 2015, Nebula nomination 2015
Today I Am Carey from Baen
The Last Dance (#1 science fiction eBook on Amazon, October 2019) and The Last Campaign from 47North

 
Posted : April 6, 2012 2:28 am
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Wow! And we thought our wait was bad... Somebody on Duotrope last ight reported a 522 day form rejection. Talk about your outliers...

(Yes, I suspect somebody mis-keyed something there. Just trying to lighten the tension here.)


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Tools, Not Rules.
Martin L. Shoemaker
3rd Place Q1 V31
"Today I Am Paul", WSFA Small Press Award 2015, Nebula nomination 2015
Today I Am Carey from Baen
The Last Dance (#1 science fiction eBook on Amazon, October 2019) and The Last Campaign from 47North

 
Posted : April 6, 2012 2:42 am
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Did anyone else get an email fron Joni saying their entry did not win in the 1st quarter of 2012? I didn't even enter in the first quarter, hmmm. I did go back and chec to make sure.

by JSHill » Fri Apr 06, 2012 7:44 am

Anybody notice the above posted in the Jibber Jabber Q2 forum? Another tidbit of interesting data for our Rejectomancy...

(And it's a crazy day at work, so if somebody already commented on this above and I missed it, I apologize!)


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Posted : April 6, 2012 3:33 am
 MJNL
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Wow! And we thought our wait was bad... Somebody on Duotrope last ight reported a 522 day form rejection. Talk about your outliers...

(Yes, I suspect somebody mis-keyed something there. Just trying to lighten the tension here.)

Hey, you never know. Perhaps they really did just figure out they didn't win Q1...of 2011.


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WotF Finalist Q2 2010 (Vol. 27)
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Posted : April 6, 2012 3:43 am
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Rejectomancy with the contest is particularly difficult, because their methodology seems to change each quarter. (Or at least it's tweaked each quarter.)

The secret pattern is... There is no pattern...

I was pretty much just supplying data that makes that point.


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Posted : April 6, 2012 4:09 am
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Rejectomancy with the contest is particularly difficult, because their methodology seems to change each quarter. (Or at least it's tweaked each quarter.)

The secret pattern is... There is no pattern...

I was pretty much just supplying data that makes that point.

Yep. But no matter how many times it's made, Rejectomancy will continue unabated.


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Tools, Not Rules.
Martin L. Shoemaker
3rd Place Q1 V31
"Today I Am Paul", WSFA Small Press Award 2015, Nebula nomination 2015
Today I Am Carey from Baen
The Last Dance (#1 science fiction eBook on Amazon, October 2019) and The Last Campaign from 47North

 
Posted : April 6, 2012 4:22 am
Kary English
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Here, it's my turn to stir the pot...

See that 143-day rejection on Duotrope? It's all out of order with the rest of them, which have been more or less proceeding from early entries to late. I wouldn't be surprised if that was:

A) an Honorable Mention, or
B) an early paper sub
C) an almost HM that was put aside, reconsidered, then rejected (no clue if that actually happens)

Arguing against the paper sub hypothesis is the fact that the reject came on a day where we know there were email rejections, too. One would think snail mail rejects might show up a day or three *after* the main wave.

Do with this what you will. 😀


WOTF: 1 HM, 1 Semi, 2 Finalists, 1 Winner
Q2,V31 - Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!
Hugo and Astounding finalist, made the preliminary Stoker ballot (juried)
Published by Galaxy's Edge, DSF, StarShipSofa and TorNightfire

 
Posted : April 6, 2012 4:51 am
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