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Dustin Adams
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Submission windows:

Q1: October 1, 2023 - December 31, 2023
Q2: January 1, 2024 - March 31, 2024
Q3: April 1, 2024 - June 30, 2024
Q4: July 1, 2024 - September 30, 2024

Results are out!

Career:

1x Win
2x NW-F
2x S-F
9x S-HM
11x HM
7x R

 
Posted : December 1, 2023 4:00 am
Matthew Chambers
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Alright, now that Q1 is out of the way, time to start on Q2. Good luck to everyone!

R: 2 / HM: 1 / SHM: 2/ SF: 0 / F: 1

 
Posted : January 2, 2024 9:17 am
Jason Toth
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Okay, the submission portal is now open for Q2 (Cycle 41B).

Good luck to everyone! If anyone has any issues let me know, but should be all good to go. 

 
Posted : January 2, 2024 12:49 pm
TGio
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I have a question! I realized that we are supposed to give word count separately when we submit, but I couldn't find where that could be done when submitting electronically? Did something change in the portal and it used to have place to put that in and no longer does? Or am I just not looking properly? I want to clarify so I know for future submissions. Also, if I actually missed the spot to put it in, will it matter for my submission not to have it?  Thanks!

 
Posted : January 3, 2024 6:54 am
Physa/ Guthington/ Amy
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@tiinag if you follow Shunn format, word count goes in the top right of your story, right justified.

WOTF results:
Vol 41: Q1 HM, Q2 HM
running totals to date:
WOTF: 6 Rs, 3 RWCs. 7 HMs
IOTF: 4 Rs, 3 HMs
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Posted : January 3, 2024 7:29 am
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TGio
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@physa Thank you for the reply! I see, I've been trusting Scrivener, but realize it doesn't add the word count automatically even though it formats otherwise as needed. I am not good with this stuff, so gotta check out if I can automate that too! Smile

When it comes to instructions I am a very literal person, so it bothers me that in this case the rules say that the approximate word count should be separately stated (along with your name etc) and not on the header like the title and page count. I think the portal maybe changed and the instructions didn't? Sorry for being a nuisance, but I rather be sure than guess. 

 
Posted : January 3, 2024 7:47 am
babooher
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Weird. I finished my story that I believe will be my entry for Q2, and yet it isn't even March, let alone 11:59 pm on the 31st. What is happening? Gonna let my writing group look at it tonight, and then I'll get started on Q3, I guess.

2012 Q4: R
2016 Q3: SHM
2019 Q2: HM, Q3: HM
2020 Q2: HM, Q4: SHM
2021 Q1: HM, Q2: SF, Q3: SHM, Q4: SHM
2022 Q1: SHM, Q2 RWC, Q4 RWC
2023 Q1: RWC Q2: SHM Q3:Nope Q4: WIP

 
Posted : January 28, 2024 5:17 pm
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Lack of word count won't disqualify your story. Shunn format is recommended, but slush readers report they get submissions in a wide range of formats. By virtue of being in this Forum, you're already more aware of the Contest rules and culture than 90% of the entrants. Many of them have no clue about the Contest's formatting preferences. If it's readable and consistent (they say some manuscripts have formats that shift randomly), it won't be automatically rejected.

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"Today I Am Paul", WSFA Small Press Award 2015, Nebula nomination 2015
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Posted : January 28, 2024 5:26 pm
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Peter Spasov
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@martin-l-shoemaker Thank you for your points. According to Shunn: Still, you should always check a market’s
submission guidelines before sending your work. If their rules differ from these, follow theirs.

Since the "market" is WotF and section of 6 of the contest rules states: Electronic submissions will separately include the author’s legal name, pen name if applicable, address, telephone number, e-mail address, and approximate word count.

Then according to both Shunn and the contest rules, do not include a statement of word count in the manuscript. Right?

 

 

 

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Posted : February 2, 2024 5:17 am
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Sherri Morris
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@pspasovnexicom-net My understanding is that WotF requirements are essentially the same, however, the Shunn format calls for all the identifiable information to be on the first page of the manuscript.  WotF wants to take all that identifiable info and place it somewhere in the body of the email, not in the attached document file (manuscript).  wc probably isn't all that important to WotF because the software the readers are using probably already count pages and words.

 
Posted : February 2, 2024 6:50 am
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Posted by: @babooher

Weird. I finished my story that I believe will be my entry for Q2, and yet it isn't even March, let alone 11:59 pm on the 31st. What is happening? Gonna let my writing group look at it tonight, and then I'll get started on Q3, I guess.

Wow! Nice work! I'm still zero drafting! LOL

 

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Posted : February 2, 2024 6:59 am
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Posted by: @pspasovnexicom-net

@martin-l-shoemaker Thank you for your points. According to Shunn: Still, you should always check a market’s
submission guidelines before sending your work. If their rules differ from these, follow theirs.

Since the "market" is WotF and section of 6 of the contest rules states: Electronic submissions will separately include the author’s legal name, pen name if applicable, address, telephone number, e-mail address, and approximate word count.

Then according to both Shunn and the contest rules, do not include a statement of word count in the manuscript. Right?

Word count is not required, but slush readers report that sometimes it’s helpful. It’s your call.

 

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Tools, Not Rules.
Martin L. Shoemaker
3rd Place Q1 V31
"Today I Am Paul", WSFA Small Press Award 2015, Nebula nomination 2015
Today I Am Carey from Baen
The Last Dance (#1 science fiction eBook on Amazon, October 2019) and The Last Campaign from 47North

 
Posted : February 2, 2024 7:19 am
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crlisle
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Submitted! Now to finish writing Q3's story.

Vol. 36: 3rd -- R, 4th -- R
Vol. 37: R, HM, HM, SHM
Vol. 38: HM, HM, HM, HM
Vol. 39: SHM, RWC, RWC, HM
Vol. 40: HM, R, RWC, R
Vol. 41: R, 2nd -- HM, 3rd -- pending, 4th -- WIP

Amateur published stories:
"The Tell-Tale Cricket" in The Murderbugs Anthololgy
"Follow the Pretrons" in Martian Magazine, and a Critters Award
"Eyes and Hands" in Galaxy's Edge Magazine
"The Last Dance" in Parliament of Wizards, LTUE anthology
"My Ten Cents" in Sci Fi Lampoon
Professional Publication:
"Invasion" in Daily Science Fiction

 
Posted : February 2, 2024 11:11 am
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@crlisle I'm new to the forums and have been reading through a lot. Can you tell me what the letters next to your WotF subs mean? HM=honorable mention I assume (congrats!). Is R rejected and RWC rejected with comments? 

Thank you! Also, nice work having Q2 submitted already!

 
Posted : February 14, 2024 2:16 am
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Posted by: @bookkerri

@crlisle I'm new to the forums and have been reading through a lot. Can you tell me what the letters next to your WotF subs mean? HM=honorable mention I assume (congrats!). Is R rejected and RWC rejected with comments? 

Thank you! Also, nice work having Q2 submitted already!

 

That's right. Plus SHM is silver honourable mention, SF is semi finalist and F is finalist. 

 

R:6 RWC:1 HM:9 SHM:3
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Posted : February 14, 2024 11:34 am
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crlisle
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@bookkerri thank you! Welcome to the Forum! Lots of nice folk and help here. Pending means that I have submitted, but it hasn't been judged yet. WIP means work in progress. I just updated my signature.

I think it's so funny that we are all working towards getting an "F". 😆 

 

Vol. 36: 3rd -- R, 4th -- R
Vol. 37: R, HM, HM, SHM
Vol. 38: HM, HM, HM, HM
Vol. 39: SHM, RWC, RWC, HM
Vol. 40: HM, R, RWC, R
Vol. 41: R, 2nd -- HM, 3rd -- pending, 4th -- WIP

Amateur published stories:
"The Tell-Tale Cricket" in The Murderbugs Anthololgy
"Follow the Pretrons" in Martian Magazine, and a Critters Award
"Eyes and Hands" in Galaxy's Edge Magazine
"The Last Dance" in Parliament of Wizards, LTUE anthology
"My Ten Cents" in Sci Fi Lampoon
Professional Publication:
"Invasion" in Daily Science Fiction

 
Posted : February 15, 2024 8:56 am
Michael Strickland
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Are there any stats related to % of entries receiving HM, SF, etc.? I see lots of HMs in your post signatures, which is great!

 

I'm new here -- this is my first post, other than my intro -- and I'm looking forward to jumping in (and hopefully submitting every quarter!).

 
Posted : February 15, 2024 9:59 pm
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Finalists are always 8 per quarter. No more, no less.

Semifinalists are when there are more than 8 worthy of being Finalists, but Jody only gets to choose 8. The rest are Semifinalists, a handful at most per quarter.

Silver Honorable Mention are really good, but in some way fall short of winner quality. A few per quarter.

Honorable Mention was good enough for Jody to finish, even if she doesn't think it's ready for publishing. It did something right, but not enough. These make up roughly 10% of all entries.

Rejection With Comment means your story failed in one of several specific ways (I think I counted 16), but might be worth considering if it weren't for that. Note that this means failure for this market, and might be fine in another market. I have no estimate for the count of these.

Disqualified means your story cannot be considered for some reason. By far the most common is including your name in the story. Do not include your name. The Contest must be kept anonymous.

 

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Martin L. Shoemaker
3rd Place Q1 V31
"Today I Am Paul", WSFA Small Press Award 2015, Nebula nomination 2015
Today I Am Carey from Baen
The Last Dance (#1 science fiction eBook on Amazon, October 2019) and The Last Campaign from 47North

 
Posted : February 15, 2024 10:10 pm
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storysinger
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(@stricklandia) One of the best ways to get a feel for what wins the contest is to take the free online workshop Michael. 

Good luck to you.

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Posted : February 16, 2024 8:32 am
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Michael Strickland
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@storysinger Thank you -- yes, I'm about halfway through the workshop, and I also bought the package of past volumes of WOTF books and have started reading them.

 
Posted : February 16, 2024 8:44 am
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Jose Sanchez
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@hyperion88

Ok so now if Q1 has been taken care of or selections made, then when will the list be put out ?

I just entered already for Q2 and am in the planning stages for Q3. But still waiting for the results of Q1. Thanks.

 
Posted : February 18, 2024 4:41 pm
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Gideon Smith
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@jose77sanchez last year Q1 results came out April 11th.

That was a typical year.

Some years are different but not by much unless something significant happens to delay the contest

"...your motivations for wanting to write are probably complex. You may have a few great passions, you may want to be rich and famous, and you may need therapy."
- Dave Farland, Million Dollar Outlines

Writers of the Future:
2024 Q1: F Q2: HM Q3:P Q4: P
2023 Q1: RWC Q2: SHM Q3: SHM Q4: R
2022 Q4: R
Submissions to other markets:
2024: 17 submitted 4 acceptances
2023: 74 submitted 13 acceptances
2022: 22 submitted 1 acceptance

http://www.gideonpsmith.com

 
Posted : February 18, 2024 4:46 pm
Gene Louviere
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I'm curious about the total number of entries sent in each quarter. Would it be possible for that information to be shared with us in this forum?

 
Posted : February 19, 2024 5:44 am
Todd Jones
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@stricklandia I'm still reading through some of the "past volumes of WOTF books." There is a wide range of topics and styles, even a 2nd person POV. 

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right."~ Henry Ford
2024 - V41 - Q1-RWC (Resubmitted a "HM"), Q2-HM, Q3-Submitted, Q4-?
2023 - V40 - Q1-HM, Q2-HM, Q3-R, Q4-HM
2022 - V39 - Q1-SHM, Q2-HM, Q3-SF, Q4-HM (Resubmitted a "HM")
2021 - V38 - Q4-HM (Resubmitted a "R")
2020 - V37 - Q2-R

 
Posted : February 19, 2024 10:40 am
Dustin Adams
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@emlouviere The precise # of entries is not released. However, you might extrapolate the HMs and SHMs being 10 - 20% of all entries received.

For my part I never looked at the total because there's more Returns than not. What I mean is, if there's 400 good/great stories, that's the number to beat. Not the total total. And there's three winners, so it's 8/400 for finalist, and 3/400 for the win. That's good odds.

Ultimately it's: Write the best story you can this quarter and submit.
Then repeat until you win or pro out. smiley  

Career:

1x Win
2x NW-F
2x S-F
9x S-HM
11x HM
7x R

 
Posted : February 20, 2024 3:09 am
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Gideon Smith
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@tj_knight lies, damned lies, and statistics 🤣 

 

Everything Dustin says is true - and I am as guilty as any trying to figure this kind of data out. I would add that what I came to conclude is that knowing the numbers doesn't actually give you any information that's going to change your outcome, or equip you to do better in the competition. However, focusing on creating your best work will.

 

So these days my approach is: Focus on words, not numbers, as those are what will make you win.

"...your motivations for wanting to write are probably complex. You may have a few great passions, you may want to be rich and famous, and you may need therapy."
- Dave Farland, Million Dollar Outlines

Writers of the Future:
2024 Q1: F Q2: HM Q3:P Q4: P
2023 Q1: RWC Q2: SHM Q3: SHM Q4: R
2022 Q4: R
Submissions to other markets:
2024: 17 submitted 4 acceptances
2023: 74 submitted 13 acceptances
2022: 22 submitted 1 acceptance

http://www.gideonpsmith.com

 
Posted : February 20, 2024 6:33 am
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Before the LTUE conference, I was debating on whether to submit or not. But, after meeting some of my writing group, wulfpack, and going to the WotF sessions, I decided to give it another go like the heros in my story. I may be a little late to writing a fresh story, but I'll get there.

Small steps add up to miles.
V38: R, R, HM, HM
V39: RWC, HM, HM, SHM
V40 : HM, RWC, R, HM
V41 : RWC, P, P
"Amore For Life" in After the Gold Rush Third Flatiron Anthology
"Freedom’s Song” in Troubadour and Space Princesses LTUE Anthology
"Experimenting with the Dance of Death" in Love is Complicated LUW Romance Anthology.

 
Posted : February 20, 2024 7:44 pm
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storysinger
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Posted by: @gideonpsmith

So these days my approach is: Focus on words, not numbers, as those are what will make you win.

Great advice Gideon. For me just telling a story is satisfying. The less one stresses, the more enjoyable the process.

 

 

Today's science fiction is tomorrow's reality-D.R.Sweeney
HM x5
Published Poetry
2012 Stars in Our Hearts
Silver Ships

 
Posted : February 21, 2024 7:26 am
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 TimE
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My Q1 entry was my shortest for ages. Just finished my Q2 entry, it's my longest for ages. Perhaps that reduces its chances, but hey, i've enjoyed writing it.

?

 
Posted : February 23, 2024 9:57 am
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Cherrie
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Well I've submitted my Q2 submission! It is done.

Volume 41 Q1 Illustrator Winner!
4x Finalist Illustrators
5x Semi finalist Illustrators
1x HM Illustrators
7x HM Writers
1x SHM Writers V39 Q3
https://clforsauthor.com
Author of the Primogenitor series: Cradle of Mars, Adaptation, Reunion, Schism: Available on Amazon under CL Fors

 
Posted : February 28, 2024 10:53 pm
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