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(@martin-l-shoemaker)
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Posted by: @fritz

@martin-l-shoemaker Thank you for the comprehensive reply. I have a different story in for this quarter but I still think the one that got RWC twice has great potential. Will look into it some more and see what works. 

Thank you very much! 

Of course, there are no rules, only tools. Some of the things I mentioned have been done successfully (but only some--it's difficult to do typos and missing words successfully). Andy Weir starts Project Hail Mary with an amnesiac waking up, and he makes it work. But by including these elements, you raise your own bar. Kary and Jody might keep reading despite these elements if the prose is excellent, the characters engaging, the idea fresh and astounding, etc. So if your story really needs to start with one of these, make sure you give them a reason to keep reading despite that.

 

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Posted : June 23, 2023 7:14 pm
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Posted by: @martin-l-shoemaker

Posted by: @fritz

@martin-l-shoemaker Thank you for the comprehensive reply. I have a different story in for this quarter but I still think the one that got RWC twice has great potential. Will look into it some more and see what works. 

Thank you very much! 

Of course, there are no rules, only tools. Some of the things I mentioned have been done successfully (but only some--it's difficult to do typos and missing words successfully). Andy Weir starts Project Hail Mary with an amnesiac waking up, and he makes it work. But by including these elements, you raise your own bar. Kary and Jody might keep reading despite these elements if the prose is excellent, the characters engaging, the idea fresh and astounding, etc. So if your story really needs to start with one of these, make sure you give them a reason to keep reading despite that.

 

Great! Thank you very much. Appreciate your wisdom. 

 

 
Posted : June 24, 2023 3:37 am
Cray Dimensional
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@emlouviere one hot chocolate chip cookie coming up.

Small steps add up to miles.
5 R, 4 RWC, 6 HM, 1 SHM
"Amore For Life" in After the Gold Rush Third Flatiron Anthology
"Freedom’s Song” in Troubadour and Space Princesses LTUE Anthology
"Experimenting with the Dance of Death" in Love is Complicated LUW Romance Anthology.

 
Posted : June 24, 2023 6:09 am
Todd Jones
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I'm in for Q3.

popcorn

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right."~ Henry Ford

2025 V42: Submitted, WIP, ?, ?
2024 V41: RWC (Resubmitted "HM"), HM, RWC, Finalist (RWC Resubmit)
2023 V40: HM, HM, R, HM
2022 V39: SHM, HM, Semi-finalist, HM (HM Resubmit)
2021 V38: ---HM (R Resubmit)
2020 V37: -R--

 
Posted : June 24, 2023 9:41 am
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Cherrie
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@ease I’m glad you submitted anyway! You never know for sure. All the luck!

Volume 41 Q1 Illustrator Winner!
4x Finalist Illustrators
5x Semi finalist Illustrators
1x HM Illustrators
7x HM Writers
3x SHM Writers
https://clforsauthor.com
Author of the Primogenitor series: Cradle of Mars, Adaptation, Reunion, Schism: Available on Amazon under CL Fors

 
Posted : June 25, 2023 12:54 am
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Cherrie
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@storysinger That’s exciting! How is the new story coming along?

 

Good luck to everyone in for Q3 and extra muse fuel for everyone still writing!

Volume 41 Q1 Illustrator Winner!
4x Finalist Illustrators
5x Semi finalist Illustrators
1x HM Illustrators
7x HM Writers
3x SHM Writers
https://clforsauthor.com
Author of the Primogenitor series: Cradle of Mars, Adaptation, Reunion, Schism: Available on Amazon under CL Fors

 
Posted : June 25, 2023 12:58 am
 TimE
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I’m in. My regular critiquer went over the first part and said it was the best thing I’ve written, but never got to the 2nd part – is that mixed messages?  What I took to be a novice writer (what am I!) left short crits on both parts, and another I don’t know crit the 1st part and commented that he read the 2nd for pleasure. So this story hasn’t had much attention.

It might be a little dark for WotF. Never mind. Onto Q4.

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Posted : June 26, 2023 3:25 am
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Todd Jones
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Posted by: @time

I’m in. 

It might be a little dark for WotF. Never mind. Onto Q4.

Submit and move on. Worth a try if that's the story you have for the quarter. 

Good luck.

 

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right."~ Henry Ford

2025 V42: Submitted, WIP, ?, ?
2024 V41: RWC (Resubmitted "HM"), HM, RWC, Finalist (RWC Resubmit)
2023 V40: HM, HM, R, HM
2022 V39: SHM, HM, Semi-finalist, HM (HM Resubmit)
2021 V38: ---HM (R Resubmit)
2020 V37: -R--

 
Posted : June 26, 2023 3:39 am
Adrian
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I'm in for Q3 as well. As mentioned, it was an old HM that I came across after a couple of years in the drawer and I thought it had more potential. I'm pretty sure it's better now, but so is the competition so we'll see how it goes. Fingers crossed for everyone. Smile

F x1
SHM x4
HM x10
RWC x1
R Dozens

 
Posted : June 26, 2023 9:08 am
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I've finished the revisions of my Q3 entry based on beta reader feedback. Just doing some line editing now. Should get it in by the deadline, but it'll be close.

Sweaty  

Writers of the Future stats:
V32: Q3 - R
V33: Q3 - R
V39: Q4 - RWC
V40: RWC, R, HM, HM
V41: R, HM, RWC, HM
V42: Q1 - wip

All markets submission stats:
215 Submissions
207 Rejections
26 Personal Rejections
0 Acceptances

 
Posted : June 27, 2023 11:51 pm
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And in...took me FOREVER to do my final revision.  Mental wall, exhaustion from work stress, who knows.  But its done.

Vol 37 Q4-SHM
Vol 38 Q1-HM Q2-DNP Q3-DNP Q4-HM
Vol 39 Q1-HM Q2-HM Q3- DNP Q4- HM
Vol 40 Q1- DNP Q2- HM Q3- Subbed

 
Posted : June 28, 2023 7:58 am
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storysinger
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My story is ready to go but I can't possibly consider submitting with so much time left. Wink  

Today's science fiction is tomorrow's reality-D.R.Sweeney
HM x5
Published Poetry
2012 Stars in Our Hearts
Silver Ships

 
Posted : June 28, 2023 8:31 am
JVAshley
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@storysinger I am with you 100%.
Unless you are skidding in with dirt under your nails, does it even count? giggle

~ J V Ashley

 
Posted : June 28, 2023 5:43 pm
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Beth Powers
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I haven't submitted early for awhile, but I did this time! I'm in for Q3 grinning  

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HM x 21
Entries x 69
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Collected Stories:
Sorcery & Widgets
Runes & Rivets

 
Posted : June 28, 2023 8:14 pm
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David S. Pittsenberger
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Hey all, will be submitting for the first time tomorrow. I'm waiting on the last of my beta readers to finish. 44 years young!

V40, Q3-4: HM, RWC
V41: in progress

 
Posted : June 28, 2023 8:59 pm
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 TimE
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Posted by: @undreamedages

Hey all, will be submitting for the first time tomorrow. I'm waiting on the last of my beta readers to finish. 44 years young!

I hope you get the excitement of an award. A HM feels good and who knows...

 

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Posted : June 29, 2023 12:01 am
Todd Jones
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@storysinger I am with you 100% too.

A week before was a lot of time before deadline for me. laughing  

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right."~ Henry Ford

2025 V42: Submitted, WIP, ?, ?
2024 V41: RWC (Resubmitted "HM"), HM, RWC, Finalist (RWC Resubmit)
2023 V40: HM, HM, R, HM
2022 V39: SHM, HM, Semi-finalist, HM (HM Resubmit)
2021 V38: ---HM (R Resubmit)
2020 V37: -R--

 
Posted : June 29, 2023 3:16 am
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Posted by: @undreamedages

Hey all, will be submitting for the first time tomorrow. I'm waiting on the last of my beta readers to finish. 44 years young!

Congrats on taking the next step and submitting. toast  

I just started getting serious about my writing and submitting a few years ago (just turned 52). I'm hooked.  

The forum, and people I've met through it, have been great support and wonderful with advice. I can really see my writing getting better. My only regret is I didn't start here 25 years ago.  brickwall  

Keep on writing.

 

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right."~ Henry Ford

2025 V42: Submitted, WIP, ?, ?
2024 V41: RWC (Resubmitted "HM"), HM, RWC, Finalist (RWC Resubmit)
2023 V40: HM, HM, R, HM
2022 V39: SHM, HM, Semi-finalist, HM (HM Resubmit)
2021 V38: ---HM (R Resubmit)
2020 V37: -R--

 
Posted : June 29, 2023 3:21 am
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JVAshley
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I'm In...again

Thanks @craydimensional
The lattes and cookies are exactly what I needed to finish. 
Now, to settle in for the wait... sippincoffee  
Oh, Yeah! popcorn  
Q2 results are lurking around the corner, aren't they.

~ J V Ashley

 
Posted : June 29, 2023 6:44 pm
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WriterGirl0426
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Hey there, all. Some of you will remember me, others not so much. Covid had me not writing for a while, but thankfully that block was countered with contests. And now that things are moving again, I thought I'd take a new piece and submit it. So I'm in for this quarter. Hooray! Smile I see a lot of familiar names and faces. Good to be back.

--Tracy (aka WriterGirl)

Tracy
V36 - SHM, SEMI-FINALIST!!!, HM, SHM
V37 - Q1:SHM --COVID INTERRUPTUS--
V40 - Q3: SHM

 
Posted : June 29, 2023 7:46 pm
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Pegeen
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I just submitted for this quarter. Yeah!

~~ Pegeen ~~
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V40 - Q1 RWC, Q2 HM,

 
Posted : June 29, 2023 8:14 pm
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Dustin Adams
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Today's the day, folks!

Seems like everyone's in - but if you aren't, and you're on the fence - do it!

Two of the winners in V.39 submitted because of the deadline, and not because they personally felt like they had the perfect story ready when the deadline came.

And they won.

So, sub, sub, sub-mit!

Career: 1x Win -- 2x NW-F -- 2x S-F -- 9x S-HM -- 11x HM -- 7x R
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Posted : June 30, 2023 1:37 am
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I'm in for Q2, in for Q3, writing Q4, and brainstorming for Q1. An idle mind is the Twitcher's playground, so I just try and keep busy to avoid all that.

"You can either sit here and write, or you can sit here and do nothing. But you can’t sit here and do anything else."
— Neil Gaiman, Masterclass

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SFx1
HMx5
R/RWCx5

 
Posted : June 30, 2023 4:28 am
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storysinger
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I'm in. I hope we have another winner from the forum.

Today's science fiction is tomorrow's reality-D.R.Sweeney
HM x5
Published Poetry
2012 Stars in Our Hearts
Silver Ships

 
Posted : June 30, 2023 5:32 am
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Doc Honour
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Stragglers? Who's a straggler? What, just because I'm still editing/improving my story on the last day? This is sort of like merging on the highway prior to a lane closure. No need to merge until you get to the orange cones, right?

Write so long as words keep flowing...
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V38 HMx2; V39 HMx2, RWC, DQ (oops)
V40 SF(!), HM; RWCx2; V41 HM, RWCx2, DQ (what, again!)
V42 Q1:Sub

 
Posted : June 30, 2023 12:38 pm
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angelslayah
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In with a thing —which I consider one of the best I've produced— but not, probably, an ideal fit for the Contest. Sometimes you have to go with what you have on hand and free from consideration elsewhere! 

Kiss it and wave bye bye for four or five or six months...

@DonMarkmaker

 
Posted : June 30, 2023 1:53 pm
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angelslayah
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Posted by: @morgan-broadhead

An idle mind is the Twitcher's playground

I'm def using that line!

@DonMarkmaker

 
Posted : June 30, 2023 1:55 pm
David S. Pittsenberger
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Posted by: @angelslayah

In with a thing —which I consider one of the best I've produced— but not, probably, an ideal fit for the Contest. Sometimes you have to go with what you have on hand and free from consideration elsewhere! 

Kiss it and wave bye bye for four or five or six months...

 

Ha, I had mine all ready to send yesterday and then read some things on the forums, some of it direct quotes, stating certain things the judges don't like. I won't go into detail, because I'm not sure what disqualifies you.

I had just gone in last week and made changes, adding something they apparently don't care for. But I think it fits the story better so I sent it in anyway. I write what I like, and for me, so if they don't like it I'll submit it somewhere else come October. That's not to say I don't take criticism.

The thing I'm referring to is something very subjective that many people don't have an issue with. It seems a bit old fashioned to me that they don't care for it, and I'm in my 40s! I ran the concept past some beta readers, including professional writers, some SFWA, and they had no issue either.

It does make me curious how it will shake out though. I'll wonder if it's the reason my story ends up with whatever result it does.

 

V40, Q3-4: HM, RWC
V41: in progress

 
Posted : June 30, 2023 2:47 pm
MarathonCoder
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I'm in, and it's still daylight out.  This story's a little different for me, as I try to find my voice.  The subject wasn't of interest to some of my readers, which doesn't mean anything as long as it grabs Kary's attention, then Jody's.

Good luck to everyone still revising and those already in.  May the certificates this quarter be plentiful.

V38: HM, R, R, HM
V39: RWC, HM, RWC, HM
V40: RWC, HM, SHM, R
V41: R, RWC, R, R
V42: P, WIP

 
Posted : June 30, 2023 2:53 pm
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(@pmg)
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Phew! Finally got my Q3 submission in! grinning  

No idea about what to submit in Q4 yet.

Back to checking email and phone for Q2 results ? 

Writers of the Future stats:
V32: Q3 - R
V33: Q3 - R
V39: Q4 - RWC
V40: RWC, R, HM, HM
V41: R, HM, RWC, HM
V42: Q1 - wip

All markets submission stats:
215 Submissions
207 Rejections
26 Personal Rejections
0 Acceptances

 
Posted : June 30, 2023 2:54 pm
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